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1/27/2016 5:05:35 AM
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If I went to a "real college" I would be riddled with student loans on top of faxes and trying to maintain a full time job
How about you work with your hands?
Blue collar workers are making more than kids with a 4 year degree from a state school.
We can sit around all day and talk political philosophy or we can get out there and work to change it.
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Edited by CitrusTheNile: 1/27/2016 5:33:55 AMSome of the people who go to "real colleges" you can thank for your medicines, hospitals, technological advances, etc.
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temporal fallacy times were different and those colleges ride on the fact that those people either attended there or helped establish that college's name i assure you the cost of college then was far less expensive and price gouged as it is today. i also assure you a third of those people never finished school much less attended a college. school is not for smart people. let that sink in. an establishment only hinders progress
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Edited by CitrusTheNile: 1/27/2016 8:59:02 PMTalking fallacies, false dilemma. You ignore the instance were college also includes graduate school, technical school, community college, and master's programs. Yes, many entrepreneur's create many wonderful things, but they are not the one's upholding research standards to allow for the continuation of discovery and human progression through research. You also ignore the present students who are discovering new things daily that are not covered in any media outlet and are unheard of. It's not just the people in our history books who have helped discover new things. I also find it amusing that you pull those numbers out of thin air. No supporting evidence to back up your claims.
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so you concede that since we are both arguing with fallacies then neither of us know what we are talking about and are not dealing with facts or absolutes
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Edited by CitrusTheNile: 1/28/2016 4:24:47 PMIf you read my response carefully I don't need supporting evidence. Mine is simple logic. Entrepreneur's are people who are successful at start up companies turning them into big companies (they are not following any standardized research methods). There are people in graduate school. To graduate they need to do a research project under a mentor, they discover news things through their research. That hasn't stopped and probably will not stop. As far as pricing goes for school, sure, school costs more now, but what does the relativity look like in accordance to living expenses and school expenses? How do you know only 1/3 of students make it through college? And how do you measure their intelligence to determine if college students are actually smart? Smart relative to what? I simply used definitions of words and common sense. When numbers are involved you need evidence.
