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Edited by Spawn: 1/28/2016 1:46:17 AM
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Bernie Sanders' Economic Policy explained in Destiny Terms

Bernie Sanders' campaign is built on what he and many others call wealth inequality, his entire economic policy is built on addressing this "issue". In an effort to promote understanding of his widely popular policies I will now explain them and how they work within the scope of Destiny. Let's begin.. Commander Zavala's term is finished and elections are in process to select a new commander of the Vanguard. The Speaker tried running but was deemed "out of touch and too old" for this young generation of guardians. In a close election between Bernie Sanders and Cayde-6, Cayde-6's past habits of boozing and womanizing come out after a string of sexual harassment accusations from Petra Venj and Amanda Holliday. Bernie Sanders ends up pulling ahead and winning after this information becomes public. Sweeperbot mounts an unsuccessful 3rd party campaign. Bernie Sanders is sworn in as Commander of the Vanguard and vows to tackle the problem of wealth inequality among Guardians. Wealth in Destiny consists of a combination of exotics, god-roll legendaries, strange coins, and light level (among other things). Let's face it some guardians are much wealthier than others! Bernie vows to fight this wealth inequality "these 1-percenters have way too much wealth, why does a guardian need a last word, a black spindle, and a chaperone? They can't even equip all of them at once!" Bernie goes on to say "I've seen these 1-percenters, some of them have two Twilight Garrisons, Thorns, Party Crashers with rangefinder and rifled barrel, and HUNDREDS of strange coins. How can an up and coming guardian ever attain that sort of wealth when they're only getting 30 or so strange coins a week? These 1-percenters have all the exotics they could ever need and yet they still horde hundreds of strange coins and three of coins, it's not fair!" To make things "fair" Bernie hikes taxes on guardians that have an "excessive" amount of exotics and strange coins, if you have over 15 exotics you are hit with a 45% tax. You must pay the new Vanguard gov't 45% of your exotics or strange coins. If you have 20 exotics you pay a 60% tax on your exotics and strange coins, and if you have 35+ exotics you pay a 75% tax. It's only "fair". The new gov't then begins to subsidize Xur. As a result, Xur now provides two exotics and 10 three of coins a week to underprivileged guardians for "free". Regular guardians notice a spike in prices for exotics from Xur, armor prices rise to 18 strange coins a piece, weapon engrams rise to 25 strange coins, three of coins are now 10, and legacy engrams (a luxury item) come up to 50 strange coins a piece. Guardians who worked hard for their exotics and strange coins are ridiculed for being "wealthy", they were simply "lucky" they had RNG on their side. Never mind the fact that they spent hours raiding and grinding in Iron Banner, their high light level and collections of exotics/strange coins aren't the result of their hard work, they only have all that because of "luck" and it's "unfair". Bernie's economic policy and crippling taxes destroy all the incentive to raid and grind Iron Banner. "Why would I spend all that time and energy raiding when Bernie is just gonna tax and take most of my hard earned loot?" guardians ask. "Hell I could just sit back, pound some beers, and shoot dregs on patrol while collecting those "free" exotics and three of coins from Xur every week" other guardians say. As a result, wealthy guardians leave the tower, swear their allegiance to the Queen, and move to Reef (taking their exotics, strange coins, and possessions with them). Suddenly, no one is left to pay for the expensive subsidies and programs that supply underprivileged guardians with "free" exotics and three of coins. Without the "wealthy" to tax and pay for the gov't programs, these social programs go insolvent and suddenly Xur stops providing goods to underprivileged guardians. Meanwhile since their is still so much debt the higher prices on Xur's goods remain, sparking a revolt. Both the underprivileged and middle class guardians are unable to afford these high priced exotics and three of coins. The remaining guardians have become dependent on government and expect to be provided with something, however, Bernie's new Vanguard gov't is reeling in debt from providing all these "free" goods and services. The people begin to uprise (just like in every other example of socialism) and a coup is organized to oust Bernie from the Vanguard. One morning Bernie is walking outside with his bodyguard and is attacked by Cayde-6, Bernie and his bodyguard both fire their shotguns but Cayde-6 is 10 feet away and just outside of range. Cayde then quickly dispatches both of them from 10 feet away with his 1000YS sniper. Cayde-6 then embarks on a campaign to make the Vanguard great again. Meanwhile, the Reef has transformed into an economic powerhouse where guardians are eager to work hard, take risks, and keep the rewards of their work. The Reef has low taxes but because there is so much wealth their revenues remain strong, couple this with the fact that the Reef doesn't blow money on redistribution and social programs, and what do you know... They're running a budgetary surplus!! Moral of the story: Capitalism > "Democratic" Socialism Rand Paul 2016 ...and if he doesn't get the nomination any other Republican 2016, they're all more economically literate than Bernie! Edit: Lots of people showing love and lots of people hating. To the haters all I gotta say is supply and demand is LAW. Learn it, live it, love it. Bernie sure doesn't... Edit 2: Over-regulation is a bad thing. In Destiny terms, was Destiny better when it first came out or after all of Bungie's various nerfs and buffs? I think we know the answer... Edit 3: This post sure got crazy, kinda like Bernie Sander's economic policies. For all the haters I have one statement, supply and demand determines value. This is an irrefutable economic truth. Bernie's policies attempt to assign value in opposition to supply and demand. That is why his policies are guaranteed to fail. To everyone that showed some love, YOU ROCK!!

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  • I'm a college student who is not blinded by this "free tuition" BS. Vote Republican

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    • This is an innocent question, so please don't start hurling fireballs at me. Why can't everyone just be taxed the same? How is it fair that just because you work harder and earn more that you have to pay more? Why can't everyone just be taxed the same, regardless of income?

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      • I think this post may have run it's course. I sure hope so, trying to explain basic economic principles to rabid Sanders supporters is tiring AF!!!!

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        • Now that you put it that way, Bernie is a f[b]u[/b]ckin' idiot when it comes to economics.

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          • Amazing! Great!

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          • Signed in just to down vote this stupid post. Life isn't that simple, the super rich elite aren't just "working hard", they are buying our system of government wholesale for their purposes. Koch, Trump, you name it. These guys pay millions to get their point of view repeated so much you idiots start to believe it. I don't understand how, in the greatest christian country every created, taking care of the poor and less fortunate is communism. It's compassionate, it's moral, it's christian, and it's the right thing as an american to support.

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            • Although I'm not confident all of Bernie's ideas would work or even be approved by congress, I do recognize that wealth inequality exists. Trickle-down economics and tax breaks for the rich have failed the economy repeatedly. CEOs earn hundreds of times more than their employees even if the company's profits are down. Hedge fund managers make billions in fees regardless of their funds' performance. A rich man makes a bad investment and can declare bankruptcy to stay rich. A poor man makes a bad investment and is in debt for life or worse. Maybe I'm idealistic, but I think if you work a job full-time, you should earn enough that you don't need to rely on government assistance for a decent quality of life. Healthcare costs and social security for the aging baby boomers will be the largest economic strain America has ever faced. We need new economic policies that might work, not those that have proven to fail time and time again.

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            • Edited by Jvp WReNCh: 1/28/2016 5:04:28 AM
              Wealth inequality is real. The moral of democratic socialism is basically "if person A & person B work the same amount of hours, person A should not make 100x more than person B." Obama once said "there's no reason for a person working full time to be below the poverty line", & I hope any logical person can at least agree with that. Edit: interesting video to watch before disagreeing with me. Not saying I'm necessarily right, but to me, the current state of things is just wrong. https://youtu.be/QPKKQnijnsM Edit 2: I've had a lot of arguments on this comment. Thanks for the opinions guys, but I feel everything that's needed to be said has already, so I'm done replying. I'll leave you with a quote I stole from a commenter: [quote]"No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.” “By living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level — I mean the wages of a decent living.” “Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day, who has been turning his employees over to the Government relief rolls in order to preserve his company’s undistributed reserves, tell you – using his stockholders’ money to pay the postage for his personal opinions — tell you that a wage of $11.00 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry.” “All but the hopelessly reactionary will agree that to conserve our primary resources of man power, government must have some control over maximum hours, minimum wages, the evil of child labor and the exploitation of unorganized labor.” That's F.D.R.--the man who set up minimum wage--and a President everyone loved.[/quote]

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              • Edited by CitrusTheNile: 1/27/2016 9:05:34 PM
                What Bernie would do is guarantee a drop from Oryx in every difficulty. Legendary engrams, exotic engrams, and the Nightfall would reward you something higher light level than currently equipped. The RNG would take into consideration your light level and the light level of the currently equipped items, and then the raid would drop you only things that are higher light level then the things you currently have. Once you reach 315, exotic engrams will drop 320 exotics. Problem solved. #FeeltheBern

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                • This is probably the most intellectual post I've ever seen on here.

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                  • Who? xD

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                  • Props to you, thanks for showing everyone how much of an ignorant socialist this guy is.

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                    • Great post! Give me the freedom to determine my own future with the work of my hands and sweat of my brow!

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                      I don't know much, but I already know Trump is gonna win. nothing hurts him in the polls

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                    • TLDR. Marco Rubio 2016.

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                      • Rand 2016!! Best post i've ever seen in this forum. The only thing the haters are able to say is that people born into wealth is unfair. Im poor and im not crying 😂 Im gonna work hard for a better life, not complain.

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                        "Bernie and his bodyguard fire their shotguns..." I lol'd at this. Nice work overall.

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                        • Didn't read wall of words, but Bernie Sanders is a communist socialist He even said so himself.

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                        • Hmm... Seems about right. Thank you for making this understandable :3

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                        • Edited by garg'o'doom: 1/28/2016 12:22:46 AM
                          Jokes on him, I just use cayde's stash oversees in the cosmodrome for my exotics not in use. Fallen tax rate is non existent.

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                        • Trump 2016 savage!

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                        • im gonna state that although i would like to agree with your voting choice, the reality is that there are three candidates who have enough support to be viable for election, and if you seriously want trump in office, theres something wrong in your head. the only real complaint about your post that i haveis that th 1% of destiny have all played since day one and are still alive. and they dont pass on their wealth to over-privileged, lazy descendants. The difference is i wouldnt want my 1% taxed if i worked for it. but if i was a millionaire or billionaire, id probably donate a lot of money to charities variously, but i wouldnt give it all up. but i wouldnt give anything to my kids either. the truth about the one percent is that there are a lot of people born into their money, and they dont work a day in their lives. Over all i cant fully support your post, although i do find it insightful. However i appreciate your desire to inform the community and respect you, your opinion,and your courage for posting. I respectfully disagree with you on certain points but i understand and agree with many others. i didnt understand Edit 1, but i agree with Edit 2

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                          • Favorite post ever on these forums! RAND 16!

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                          • Wow all of these freelance economists on a Destiny forum are hilarious. Both sides.

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                          • Great story. I have no idea who you're talking about though.

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                          • I think it's funny that people feel so entitled to what others have worked for. What a bunch of curly headed f**ks. I certainly didn't do 4 yrs of college, 4 yrs of med school and 5 yrs of surgical training to pay for Pablo and Juanitas 12 kids to go to college because they lacked foresight.

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