This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b]
Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making.
Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place.
If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP
If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP
Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare)
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[i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u]
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Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist.
[u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why.
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If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard!
(Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes)
[b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b]
[b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b]
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EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b]
For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror."
Then this is what I personally have to say to you
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Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote]
This is gold
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The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote]
By IronChalice
For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0
[u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage
Best comment IMO
[quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking.
Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on.
Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated.
In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time.
I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote]
[u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u]
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EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i]
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EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i]
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HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking!
https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278
Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time.
We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date.
People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote]
[u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u]
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1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good.
As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i]
[b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]
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Signed
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Signed. I find it interesting that we were all frustrated with Crucible before the announcement and their honesty only made things worse. I for one am glad they told us, hopefully now we can have an open conversation about how to fix it with Bungie. This may be the optimist in me coming out, but I still enjoy playing this game and want to continue. I have been slowly trying to get better in crucible and have noticed a significant change in latency issues since doing so. About a week ago, I decided to finish the Shaxx quest so I could do his bounties every week (yes I'm behind, I know). But I have gotten so frustrated that I stopped. I'll come back for Iron Banner to try again but until then, it's just not for me.
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signed Rumble is so god damn annoying nowadays
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Bungie a lot people signed. Where are you?
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Edited by Nicktuck2011: 1/24/2016 9:18:16 PMSigned. I don't mind the competition but tired of people lagging all over the place.
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Signed
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Signed but with suggestion to avoid the issue that caused it in the first place, go back to cbmm, its so sad that this wouldn't matter if they would just use dedicated servers like pretty much any competitive multiplayer shooter does in this age but thats for another time, then make a public only lobby, no fireteams or players grouped together, that way the complaints caused by pub stomping will go away and the games will be more balanced, the ones that aren't will at least be random instead of a display of what happens when a team works together against randomly grouped players. Obviously not a perfect solution but better then the way things have been
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Signed so many of these on same subject can't recall if I did this one so just in case.. Signed
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Signed
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Just had a game were 4 of the enemies took no damage. Sbmm sucks
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Bungie, please.
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Fix connections. Keep skill based matchmaking
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Hahaha are you Indian man?
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Signed
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Signed. Get rid of SBMM go to connection based match making. Stable matches will produce better outcomes because things will actually work as advertised.
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Sorry, but all you are saying is that you want easy wins. You don't enjoy playing against others with equal skill because your K/D suffers because of it. Get real. SBMM should stay, and any lag issues resolved. Quit crying because you now have to face somebody as good as you are.
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Signed. Atleast make it prioritize connection over skill
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Signed.
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Signed so hard, SBMM is making the matches non-stop TLW 1000YRD trains filled with laggy snipers, hits that don't register, teleporters and other crazy bullshido. And to those of you who might respond with "you just don't wanna fight people at your K/D because you lose" or some other garbage, my K/D personally has been going [i]up[/i] since the implementation of SBMM. I just want a crucible to enjoy when I'm not feeling like being sweaty, if I wanted to go fight tryhards using the same guns all the time I would just play trials, but really I just would prefer the lag to be banished into the shadow realm where it belongs, tired of watching headshots not register.
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Signed.
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Edited by skydog112: 1/24/2016 8:47:49 PMsigned [spoiler]At least until they get dedicated servers[/spoiler]
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Signed
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Matchmaking is fùcking retarded. No idea why they would allow this bs
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Agreed with everything you said, especially those sweaty matches. Finally someone that gets it. Signed
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Signed.