This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b]
Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making.
Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place.
If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP
If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP
Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare)
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[i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u]
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Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist.
[u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why.
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If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard!
(Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes)
[b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b]
[b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b]
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EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b]
For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror."
Then this is what I personally have to say to you
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Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote]
This is gold
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The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote]
By IronChalice
For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0
[u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage
Best comment IMO
[quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking.
Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on.
Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated.
In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time.
I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote]
[u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u]
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EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i]
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EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i]
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HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking!
https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278
Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time.
We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date.
People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote]
[u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u]
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1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good.
As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i]
[b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]
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Bungie needs to hand the game over to a different company or something, because they are just ruining the game. I hope this petition gets started back up again, because after all this time, Bungie hasn't learned a single thing from their many many mistakes. Get rid of SBMM, Crucible is the only thing about the game that doesn't completely suck and with SBMM Crucible sucks. So please Bungie, pull your head out of your butt. I'm not sure if you guys can, but the community can help you if you would just listen to us. Please stop being idiots Bungie, for the love of Destiny.
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You didn't win at all lol. Now you've got people just spamming the forums with it.
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The funny thing is that it's still in the game for sure
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-blam!- SBMM
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Bungie like to make decisions based on assumptions rather than tests. They assume average players will be overrun by better players, they assume we don't really know what we need or want, they assume we don't mind being matched with players 10'000 miles away and I assume that this is bad science! They just need to test higher priority CBMM on a 6v6 playlist such as the new individual entry playlist where teams cannot dominate. But it won't happen. They will continue to use assumptions and numbers and ignore actual player feedback. Assume, never check, it's a good motto for Bungie Devs.
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Don't get rid of it but make 2 separate play lists some people like it others dont
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Edited by Flamyera: 1/28/2016 2:10:45 AMIT LAGS LIKE HELL
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Why tf did u end it? They still havent changed shit.they say they gonna try something n shit
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Ok so did anyone actually read what Bungie said about the Match Making update? [b]If all goes well, we intend to deploy the new matchmaking settings to more Crucible playlists over time[/b] So It's only for the Iron Banner, as of today. Shouldn't this have been done with every playlist today? Bungie still screwing people over.
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Crucible is BS right now due to connection and the sweat is insane!!!
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yay they are going to switch back to connection for one day to fix something they broke this reminds me of ....weapon parts.....heavy synths....and my personal favorite planet materials remember when those broke the game so bungie took them away only to fix them later....theres a thread somewhere that has more examples
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So the "good" players want to pad their kds and don't want to play other equal people Hmm Okay Considering streamers make money by being better than other people This makes sense
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Lag less. Yay
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[b]PETITION TO GET A PHOTO OF COSMO'S DESK[/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188104059/0/0 Click it, you'll like it I promise
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Bump! Signed.
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This petition isn't why they are "experimenting" with it. It's because the Streamers and planet destiny are railing against it and two of their top streamers are telling people to go play something else. They don't care about your petition or any other for that matter.
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This what we need. No salt simply people trying to be constructive member of this community
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Regardless of "Ended"..... Bump <3
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umm...confirmation..
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Bumped
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I can't wait till Wednesday when all the whiners...wait for it...keep on whining. It will either be along the lines of 'it's still broke' or 'now everyone is cheating and lag switching during the matches.' Or some other excuse. This game is what it is and it's never going to significantly change. Get over it.
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Edited by Cellspot: 1/26/2016 6:39:40 PMMy god you are delusional.
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Well it says *ENDED* time to necrobump this ;)
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Well done.