It wasn't Bungie who ruined the game. The original meta was pretty cool, no bs, no drama. And then along came the shitty community. We want this. Remove that. Nerf this nerf that. You need to point the fingers at yourselves for allowing it.
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Because Bungie never said they look at and make changes based on statistics. Muted for stupidity.
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No, basically Bungie ruined it by giving us less content for year 2. Old raids, PoE, and old gear pointless and worthless.
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I don't think I was the one that put out all the unnecessary nerfs on guns. I did not patch the loot cave I didn't write a "typo" in assault rifle changes I didn't nerf glimmer, weapon parts I didn't constantly recycle re-painted content I didn't sell this game as an empty shell during release I didn't make this game basically unplayable without having to buy all the content. Please tell me how the community ruined this game which now nothing but a cash grab.
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[quote]YOU ruined the game....[/quote] Nope. I enjoy it. I didn't ruin anything.
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Actually I think you'll find Activision ruined Destiny. The amount of crap that went down the year before release, the content cut, the staff that left and even when the game released half the crap that was said we could do wasn't in the game. The mission layouts were repetitive as hell and the customization is a joke. Then it was Bungie's decision to make all of year one irrelevant to push their DLC, I don't believe anyone asked Bungie to do that. I also don't believe Bungie listen to the majority of people complaining about everything. They most likely look at what complaint crops up most often then check statistics to see if it is actually a problem then adjust it. Then re-adjusts it when everyone stops using that weapon and complains it's become useless. If Destiny was ruined by the players complaining about the game then it's Bungie's fault for listening to them.
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LOL you're a special type of stupid if you think that was balanced.
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The game was the best during vanilla before all these chumps jumped on the NerfTrain.
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The meta was the player's fault, the other 99% was Bungie's
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Bungie can change what they want when they want it is always up to them so yeah anything that has happened to the game is because of them.
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Original meta had an OP vex... I guarantee if that wasn't nerfed, pvp would be entirely vex.
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Bungie ruined it by not separating PVP from PVE.
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Gr8 b8 m8
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I didn't make the nightfall absolutely pointless. I don't remember anyone in the community asking to remove the weekly xp buff. I don't remember anyone saying my rewards are too good why don't they hand out ghost shells. I dont remember people saying they didn't want elemental primaries as raid rewards. Is it the communities fault they don't have dedicated servers for pvp? I'm really confused as to why you would blame end users for developer decisions. I bought this game after I played the demo, I continued playing because I found a community of friends that were good players and I had fun with them. They left, not because of thorn or TLW or fusion rifle nerfs, they left because they felt bungie was disrespecting them as consumers of this game. Bungie will be lucky to get half those guys back for destiny 2, it's their fault, not ours.
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It's nice to receive feed back from fans especially those opinions/2 cents that can make a game or anything for that matter better. What you gotta understand is not every idea is a good idea and not every opinion should be taken to heart but all of them should be heard and to be honest bungie does have open ears when it come to that. With that being said, that is one of the main reasons why the game took a few wrong turns. Destiny was allowed to much influence by everyone including Activision and what we have now is the result of that. Bungie I commend you for how you rally so many fans and let them influence you but there's a fine line and at the end of the day it's your game and your vision so stick to your guns, don't fold and roll over on your belly with things that you very well know is bad for your product. X)
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Edited by Erijian: 1/20/2016 4:09:23 PMThis game would be so bad if Bungie hadn't sent out balance patches. Sure, some were questionable, but they improved the PvP part of the game which is where the complaints came from. Can't say the same for PvE though.
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Me? I don't work for Activision.
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Edited by Swiftlock: 1/20/2016 1:57:15 PMUh, no, the original meta was NOT pretty cool. Vex and Suros were ridiculous and shotguns were even more obnoxious than they were today. Don't even get me started on the standard fusion rifles. I'm not saying things are any better now, in fact, they've gotten slightly worse, but let's be realistic.
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I have never seen so many nerf requests in any other game. People need to get better instead of asking for nerfs lol
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I do not see how ppl running around with a vex mytho class in case any one is a year 2 newbie and does not know it. wss the exotic raid primary from VOG when maxed out it had 56 shots 0 recoil and 4 shored to the head and it fired like a auto rifle
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I would agree with you except for the following facts: Bungie owns the game and makes all game decisions. Bungie decided to change weapons, gear and supers based on data they collected, they analyzed, and they concluded. Bungie never asked for our opinions or input. Bungie continues to sell product despite their changes and their direction. Bungie cannot design a game that would please everyone, therefore dissent is inherent and cannot be the basis for product decisions. Finally, you are wrong, period...
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I didn't realize someone was holding a gun to Bungies head yelling nerf.
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Edited by Snugle Wugle: 1/20/2016 3:57:53 PMWe ask/demand/cry for patches. [i]Bungie[/i] chooses to listen and give in, using tons of statistics to decide what to change. [u]Bungie[/u] makes patches. [b]Bungie[/b] implements patches. [b][i][u]Bungie[/u][/i][/b] makes more problems. Repeat.
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Hahahaha, right the ONLY thing wrong with the game is the weapons balancing......have you played PVE? No this is on Bungie. Sure they may listen to the ones who cry nerfs, but their entire approach to how the execute it is awful.
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Edited by SuparEpicLolCake: 1/20/2016 3:59:58 PMNo it was all the no skill little bitcheš that could not get to the lighthouse or complete the night fall! They made them make exotics easy to get (3oC), made nightfalls not take you to orbit, made the raid boss not take actual damage from players! They made all of these things happen, they could not handle getting shotgunned or sniped they want everything nerfed to extinction until they have their Hawksaw and Thorn in the back of the map crying cause the black spindle is bad in multi! They are the people that are the worst, they killed the game and made it so it has not fun left. Bungie needs to look at Y1 players and cater to them.