tl;dr: Exotic and Legendary drops aren't rewarding. They're not unique anymore, they're not special. Want an exotic? Use a Three of Coins. Want to get a specific exotic that you'll level up and use once then shove it in the vault? Do a quest. Want a Legendary that people will tell you that you have to have to do something and you feel obligated to use but won't like? Buy it, do King's Fall twice and you'll have everything. Want to have your hopes of getting useful loot crushed? Do a Nightfall. I want my Y1 guns back. Sure they're overpowered, but they were all unique. All of the raid weapons are just somewhat disappointing models with ugly skins that have average stats, bonus damage against Taken, Cocoon, and any random perk that any TTK gun can have. Why can't Cocoon be a passive with the bonus damage, and have two set perks that work with each other. Every VoG gun had perks that worked in tandem with each other, as well as Crota. Now, we have re skinned guns with one perk slot wasted and another one that's just boring. I had more of a feeling of accomplishment buying a Hung Jury SR4 than I did getting any drop from King's Fall. Hung Jury works, bad guns with random rolls don't. Loot needs to be better, more challenging to get, less likely to get, and actually be useful. Nearly every Y1 player remembers their first Legendary and Exotic drops, mine were The Final Boss and Truth. Every time you got a Legendary or an Exotic you felt like you earned that, or RNGesus finally blessed you with a drop. You know the feeling of getting Exotics from Legendary engrams? Like getting an Ice Breaker or Gjallarhorn from a Legendary. Sure it might have been a struggle getting something you really wanted, but it felt good. You loved that sense of accomplishment, but now, loot drops are just "meh." The Nightfall as a first example, the absolute highest light anything I got from the Nightfall was a 303 ghost shell, which was immediately dismantled due to it's inferiority to the 320 shell I have. Nightfall loot just isn't what we're used to anymore, sure getting shards was annoying sometimes, as well as strange coins. But now, wouldn't we all kill for shards and coins? Coins are less common, and at least shards can be turned into motes of light. But that 303 shell you get? A little glimmer and 3 marks. Useless. Sure maybe Exotic drops were "too commonplace" but at least they were somewhat useful. King's Fall as another example, sure it felt good getting that 308 Midha's Reckoning when I went in the day after the raid was released. But now, I have a 320 Defiance of Yasmin, which was also rewarding to get, until I got the Black Spindle. Which sure it felt good, but now I feel obliged to use it. Literally every loot drop you get doesn't matter as long as you have ToM and BS. And the chest after Golgoroth, it would feel so much more rewarding if it gave something useful. I don't need or want more Moldering Shards, I want loot. I want Exotics that are unique. Hell, Legendary gear that feels unique. Every piece of gear just doesn't feel special. If I went in to the VoG and did the Oracles, and I got a Praetorian Foil right now, I would honestly shit myself. If I got a Foil, AND a Fatebringer, I would cry. If I then got a 4th Horseman (still hunting her) from the Exotic Chest, I would have a heart attack. I mean when I got a Gjallarhorn from that chest, I squealed like a little kid. If I then got literally any exotic from Atheon, I'd still feel good. Even if I got nothing, a complete run would give me around 30 shards or energies, which in turn becomes motes of light. I might even say I miss shards and energies. Does anyone else feel like Destiny is no longer as rewarding? I even miss the old loot drop system, where it just drops directly into your inventory. Sure if you're out of space that's annoying, especially with a full postmaster. But it felt special, it felt good. Like seeing that Gjallarhorn pop up after opening a chest, or seeing that Mythoclast on the side of your screen after killing Atheon your first time. Why can't we get Exotics from Oryx? Why? Why not even have a chance? And don't say three of coins, cause I honestly hate ToC. It ruins the entire point of doing activites, now just go farm on a patrol and kill the Taken Champion every rotation. Opening an engram isn't the same as slaying a raid boss, or beating an endgame activity, you're just standing in the Tower getting trolled by Rahool. No skill, no difficulty, just luck. I didn't pay 140 dollars just to roll some dice. I want those dice to be covered with spikes laced with poison, I want them to shoot lasers, I want them to mercilessly slaughter me unless I execute the roll precisely. And even when I execute the roll, I want to have to roll more than once for an Exotic. Loot drops need to be better, harder to get, make sense, and actually be useful.