this and the golgoroth cheese need to be eliminated...they are just stupid and pathetic imo!(on second thoughts no...leave them in...helps save me 3 hours of my life if people decide they wanna do them cuz i tell them they are pathetic and leave) seriously...ive been in lfg groups that have demanded the totems cheese is "easier" and "quicker" than regular way...but every group ive been in thats done totems cheese couldnt do it....at all..and after arguing with them after every wipe to do it normally i got frustrated and leave.....and now with the golgo glitch spot thats just as bad...if you are so bad you gotta crawl into a stupid hole then you shouldnt be raiding...that simple....i cant even count the hours ive been stuck on golgo because of lfg and their reluctance to run it -blam!-ing normally....it seriously isnt hard to grab his gaze...run to the front door and shoot a couple of orbs while counting out the timer...ffs...again...i hear "were taking l2 down guys" i start questioning them...and because the majority of golgo cheesers are so set in their ways it turns into an argument...so i hear l2 im like..-blam!-ing sad and leave....and while im at it...no knight strat....wtf...why the hell do people STILL insist on doing it this way??it isnt easier..i dont know where people get that from.....i fijd the easiest ways to run it is either normal strat...8 orb and 16 orb strats...none of them are difficult and if your team is even half decent then it takes no time at all....jeeeezee