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Edited by Calaway049: 1/13/2016 12:54:05 AM
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So I tried the Totems cheese today...

Tried getting in a full raid before work. I had about two and a half hours, and joined a fireteam that was all 317+. Everyone in the group had a working mic, sounded adult, and acted mature. As we started the raid, there was no talk of who's doing this or are we using that strategy. Always a good sign. We get to totems with minimum effort and zero setbacks. As we get to the totems, it happens. The fireteam leader asks if we know the totems cheese. Everyone says yes, and agrees its faster and easier. I stay silent, unsure of how to react. I've heard of the cheese before, and know how to do it in concept. Before today, I had the same opinion of this cheese as I did the no-knight strat; if it gets the job done, and without too much hassle, I don't care. However, after a full hour on totems we had no success. Most of the fireteam at this point agreed we should just do the normal strategy, but the fireteam leader was adamant. He claimed if we did the normal strat, we would wipe more and take longer. Considering he was the one that died EVERY TIME, I had enough. For the first time in months, I rage quit a raid. Never again will I suffer through the totems cheese. If you insist on it, I'm just going to grab the cp and leave. The warpriest will NOT deem you worthy. Tl;Dr Kings Fall totems cheese is for noobs who can't do the easiest reward stage of the raid.

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    • Same thing happened to me last night, first normal try we were one rune away from completing, then someone goes we should cheese, after about an hour of this, I did the same. Quit.

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    • Over an hour at totems probably means you were not going to beat the raid anyway...

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      • Totems cheese is better fried imo

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      • I did it with my regular raid team just to do something different for a change and we did it first try. So I think your team didn't understand how to do it or people just kept messing up.

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      • IMO the cheese is a waste of time and from experience have found that it isn't any quicker!!! I mean come on how hard is it to run the relay of up and down the hill? F$&K the sword cheese!!!! Complete waste of time!!! Cheers!

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      • Your an idiot if you cheese totems just do it the normal way. As for the no knight strat i do not like it. You go into the raid and if i kill the ogres your responsible for your knight. Being in the middle is easier and no damage falloff

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        • Edited by Oswinyy: 1/13/2016 4:05:29 PM
          Anyone have a short explanation of the totem cheese? Probably the most unnecessary thing I've ever heard of

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          • Totems are easy AF. I hope they patch the cheese. It's just people being lazy.

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            • Did cheese for first time last night, much easier than normal but not needed. Just something I would do with buddies to speed it up some.

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            • Sounds harsh man, the totems definitely don't need a cheese...

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              • Totems is so easy you shouldn't have to cheese it. It literally saves you like 45seconds. Anyone that wants to cheese totems I rather leave or they get booted .

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              • If you can't pull off the cheese, stop raiding.

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              • The couple of times I've been with a group that wanted to try this... I'm glad it failed miserably and quickly and we just did it normal.

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              • I raid with our small clan of people so we have our own starts for each checkpoint so we don't have to deal with randoms, which can be very frustrating

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              • I hate raiding with randoms because strats generally become an argument and nobody wants to listen to an alternative and gets defensive about everything.

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              • The things you can cheese in this raid just make it harder, no idea why people would want to cheese it.

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              • My regular raid group doesn't normally do the totems cheese, but last night we had a couple lower level, inexperienced friends with us and decided to give it a shot just to see how it went. It was different and kinda fun, and I think it helped the lower level people survive more efficiently. It was also more forgiving if one of the people in the middle happened to die. The key seemed to be having two strong players glitching the smoke and holding the totems. The ability to one shot the boomer knight was key also, so a good sniper would be a must-have. I think this would be a good strat to employ when carrying lower level people through the hard raid. It's a good situational solution. Ultimately though, with a good team I'd experienced players, the normal totems routine is faster and more efficient.

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              • The cheese is much harder to do than the normal way imo

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                • Did the cheese for the first time in 63 completions last night. The easiest thing and quick as fück. Our raid team breezed through 3 raids from totems checkpoint in 3 1/2 hours I wouldn't do it again unless we're just trying to get them done on a Tuesday. If I'm helping others out that need to learn the raid I would do normal strat

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                • The cheese is good if you only want to play with buddies and are missing the 5th-6th person. Other than that just do it normally.

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                • Easiest part of the raid. Takes 5 minutes on a good run. Can't believe there is a cheese for this.

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                • I "rage" quit if I get a team that wants to do no knight strat.

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                • I'd never even consider cheesing such a ridiculously easy encounter. That's honestly ridiculous ...! If someone wants to cheese that on my Fireteam, booted. plain & simple.

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                • The cheese is pretty -blam!-ing easy. I prefer it cos its more chill.

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                • I've done it both ways and don't ever have trouble with either method. one thing about the cheese though is that it doesn't matter if one of the "inside" people die, if you have someone who can't stay up, put them in the middle where you can compensate for them. really both methods are fine in my opinion.

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