Tried getting in a full raid before work. I had about two and a half hours, and joined a fireteam that was all 317+. Everyone in the group had a working mic, sounded adult, and acted mature. As we started the raid, there was no talk of who's doing this or are we using that strategy. Always a good sign.
We get to totems with minimum effort and zero setbacks. As we get to the totems, it happens. The fireteam leader asks if we know the totems cheese. Everyone says yes, and agrees its faster and easier. I stay silent, unsure of how to react. I've heard of the cheese before, and know how to do it in concept. Before today, I had the same opinion of this cheese as I did the no-knight strat; if it gets the job done, and without too much hassle, I don't care.
However, after a full hour on totems we had no success. Most of the fireteam at this point agreed we should just do the normal strategy, but the fireteam leader was adamant. He claimed if we did the normal strat, we would wipe more and take longer. Considering he was the one that died EVERY TIME, I had enough. For the first time in months, I rage quit a raid. Never again will I suffer through the totems cheese. If you insist on it, I'm just going to grab the cp and leave. The warpriest will NOT deem you worthy.
Tl;Dr Kings Fall totems cheese is for noobs who can't do the easiest reward stage of the raid.
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I've only run kings fall a hand full of times. I'm familiar with the totems but can somebody describe the cheese strat to me please?
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We completed hard mode three times yesterday right after reset. One took us 70, another one 65 and another one 56 minutes. Each one was a full run. I find there is no need for saving time by cheesing totems.
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If you need to cheese totems you suck
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The cheese is convenient if the fireteam is not full. Otherwise the regular way is faster even with one or two wipes
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The cheese is only easy for the 4 guys in the middle the two who are down on totems it's kind of a pain. It is faster tho with your usual raid group. Not so much for jumping in with ransoms.
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We had a group leader that wanted to do the cheese we said no and only wiped once. It's asking a lot of one or two guys to fight off all the knights and acolytes by himself. Just run it regular and most of the time we get through it with one or less wipes.
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Why would somebody cheese that part? It's the easiest part
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First time we did totems, we did it wrong because we were clueless and still got through it. No need to cheese it.
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Cheesing totems is an embarassing concept.
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I would have done the same thing. -blam!-ing idiots waste time cheesing when they could have finished the raid already.
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Only should be used if you don't have a full fire team imo.
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Dumbest shit ever for people who don't know how to play a simple game of relay race.
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I don't understand the point of cheesing the Totems! That is the most easiest part of the raid. Why would you not wanna do it the normal way! I did the raid the few hours ago and when we got to the totems on guy asks lets do the cheese....it's much easier. That's when I knew I was in for a long session and surely we took more than an hour from totem to finish warpriest. I just left after we finished warpriest.
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It's pretty good man, personally I use it when I'm short a player or if I'm carrying someone extremely under leveled.....sounds like you just had a bad team
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Cheese is awesome.
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I kick downers who even suggest to cheese the easiest part of the raid.
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Funny thing is, if the team had done the normal way from the start. Eh you might have spent 20 minutes to get past it! SMH unless a cheese makes it significantly faster, (which on the totems it doesn't at all) then why do it?
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Edited by Zephyr: 1/13/2016 4:40:45 AMIt's just lame. I was helping sherpa this guy through normal so i joined to help at totems...what a pain. And the fireteam leaders wanted to cheese it. The guys on the totems just died. They were under light but still. Totems can be weird sometimes. Had a group sunday night that the other side died and wiped us at least 4 or 5 times on hard totems but then we did warpriest, golgo, sisters with no wipe and then did the oryx challenge in two attempts. So i guess people just slack ass the totems.
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You got throttled lol
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There's a totems cheese?
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What is the cheese?
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What's the cheese?
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I have never done the cheese before either till today, never needed to do it since the totems are easy as fuk. Someone in the group asked if we was gonna cheese it, and some said sure and I was like why not. Honestly it's slightly faster, and I would say easier . If your in a group and choose to cheese it, and fail "even once" I would highly recommend leaving or kicking who ever died. [spoiler]git good[/spoiler]
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Once again ppl just find their own way to have fun,doesn't mean u cheese u suck !u cheese u noob!i love that way cuz I like to be on one side just keep killing without running and my teammates 4ppl in the middle can use at less 6times supper by person,they had way more fun than the normal way .we done the raid 3 times right after reset every week ,every week we cheese ,we r not suck,we not a noob,we just find the way we want to play .i done the raid 80 times+ on my record shows 78 cuz there is a few times at the end before oryx got kill I left and let my friend in.please respect ppl who like to do whatever way and don't call them noob,this is a game ,we just find our own way to have fun,I can do both way without dying.u have a good day :)
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Edited by 1978 Cadillac Sedan DeVill: 1/13/2016 4:22:09 AM
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Yeah totems cheese is for bads lol