Im using fabian in IB at the moment, and i like it but it always feels lacking. Half the time the perk kicks in you take a conspiracy theory to the face, the other half the sudden recoil change puts your aim off a bit. It can take on a number of pulse/scout rifles at close-med range, and even the doctrine of passing sometimes (dunno what you guys think, but that thing is just bonkers). I think just more recoil control and remove the damage change in the perk and the gun will be great n much more worth being an exotic Also cant help but think that bungie is being really careful with it, seems like the kind of gun that could easily become op. As for immobius, eh. The gun has crap damage but is fast and feels good. N that perk is cray cray situational, like you might get to use it once or twice in pvp IF you use defender, IF you use armour and not blessing, IF your enemy is dumb enough to run in, and IF you dont get ground pounded by another titan or something. Something like melee energy on hit or kill would be so much more useful. N not a fan of the surrounded perk, to me thats pretty rare even in pve