[quote]Templar: 1 person breaks shield. Team does damage. Crota: Team breaks shield. 1 guy damages.[/quote] Hadn't thought of it that way before, but you're 100% right. One more example of what made the Vault a superior raid. Since you put the example of the Atheon fight under "communication" as an example of how "we" asked for something but didn't get it (not me, though- I hadn't done the raid by that point, nor was I on the forum, I came in when there were already random teleports) it seemed like a criticism in some way. As I read it again I'm corrected somewhat. You used it as an example of how there was more communication in the past. Thing is, the past was when the trolls hadn't yet taken over the forum and any post from DeeJ wasn't met with an instant flood of 500 "-blam- you DeeJ!" replies. The past was when Bunjie wasn't viewed as an evil empire bent on sucking all our cash away. The past was before there was a a stream of posts every day about how much Destiny sucks, from players with 2000 hours logged. The past was when we all got along. I was wondering last night why the forum seemed dead lately, and then I realized- it's because I recently added about 200 names to my mute list because they replied to some troll bait of mine. It's not that nobody's here; it's that nobody's here that I want to hear from. I'm not the least bit surprised at DeeJ and Cozmo's absence. I don't go where I'm not wanted, either.