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Do you like the Direction Destiny is heading in?

Yes

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No

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50\50

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*DISCLAIMER* -Long post *RULES* -Be polite -No negativity -Please try to comment on why you picked Yes, No, or 50/50 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *IF YOU DECIDE TO COMMENT PLEASE UP VOTE THIS THREAD SO WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AT GETTING BUNGIES ATTENTION ON THIS FEEDBACK ON HOW PLAYERS FEEL* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I want us to have a serious mature conversation. For once let's talk about where this game is going without starting a flame war, trolling, or bashing the game just because you/we feel like it's unfair. I would like you guys to try your best to judge Destiny's strong points and it's weak points. That being said I want us to TRY to be as UNBIASED as possible when giving our opinions. I know that'll be hard for certain topics and Veterans who've been playing since beta/day one but just try. Last but not least please up vote this thread so we can get some true feedback to Bungie. I feel the reason we get aggrivated at this game is because we want it to succeed so bad but every time we take a step forward we seem to also take a step back. I've been playing Destiny since beta like many others so I'd like to share my opinions and experiences with you guys as well as what we can do to make it better. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ☆REPLAYABILITY/ENDGAME/FIRETEAMS Overall if you play this game solo I feel like it's a lot emptier. It's much better with friends. Destiny is so much fun in the beginning when everything is shiny and new but when you finish everything the story missions have to offer (in 26-30 hours) it becomes bland quickly. [spoiler]Even worse is if a new player starts with TTK they can earn an item called Spark of Light early on. If they use it,(You earn it by beating first quest on the moon then talking to the Speaker after.) it will insta-level them to level 25, grant them access to the taken king questline instantly, and give them equipment far more superior than any of the rewards you'd recive playing the vanilla missions. It makes the whole experience feel less rewarding.[/spoiler] With only few ways to level up your favorite equipment AND still be the max/neccasary light level for activities, it's easy to say our current way of leveling up our gear is excruciatingly time consuming. It doesn't help that with this newest dlc some Strikes and Raids were left behind without any incentive for completing them other than nostalgia and certain quest line steps. Our endgame right now feels the same as it did in the very beginning all because we didn't bring old content forward with us. I'm okay with year one weapons staying in year one, but I would like to see year two rewards added to the loot table in the year one Raids and Strikes! It would give an incentive to go back and replay them. I also feel like we need a better way to recruit and communicate with other guardians in game. Matchmaking and voice chat alleviates some of the stress but voice chat and matchmaking aren't always available depending on what activity you play. That being said matchmaking should be optional for each game mode. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ☆PVP/PVE WEAPON BALANCE Keep in mind these are just my opinions. As far as Weapon balance, I don't understand the first thing about fine tuning the numbers for competitive play. I do however know when a new meta comes into play and I do know when some weapon types have clear advantages over others. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *PVP* Some ideas I had for balancing PvP was that we could try swapping some Primary and Special weapon types. Lets try putting Shotguns and Snipers in our Primary slots and put Hand Cannons in our Special slots. Or have less special ammo on maps. But then it hit me. I personally think the biggest problem with Weapon Balancing in our PvP community is us. We all have a certain way we like to play/think how the game should be played and it destroys our weapon balance. When Auto rifles were on top, people who didn't like them or know how to use them thought they were stronger than their weapons type of choice. They felt like it was unfair to be forced to use a weapon type that was uncomfortable to use for them, just to stay competive. Then the same thing happened with fusion rifles. The range was so much it left Snipers, Scouts, and Shotguns in a bad place. So Fusions and ARs were nerfed. Doing so left Hand Cannon users unchecked. So in the next update they gave a slight AR buff, a noticeable Pulse buff, and a hard HC nerf. With Pulses running rampant now, Scouts had a hard time killing at the ranges they were supposed to be effective at. This was because HC's were supposed to be keeping Pulse's in check at Mid range. Admittedly HC's were too effective, as they were able to outsnipe Snipers so the nerf was needed. With Pulses being the most versatile, accurate, and having the least amount of damage drop off for a Primary at the time, Snipers were having trouble keeping PR's in check due to them having a faster rate of fire, decent impact, and range. A bunch of Sniper users got tired of this happening and sought a different way to combat PR's. Enter the Shotgun Era. So the only thing left to keep Pulses in check were a handful of high rate of fire Snipers, some Scouts, and a technique using versatile movement and a one shot kill. Otherwise known as Blink Shotgunning. But now nothing could keep the Shotguns in check because the one gun that could at Mid/Close range (Fusions) was nerfed in the ground and the gun that kept them far away (Snipers) were being hassled by PR's or they were the same people who switched to shotguns to combat PR's! But shotguns had too much range. So we nerfed Blink. Then we nerfed Shotguns. Then we took away a perk from Shotguns. Then we nerfed Shotgun range some more. Now we are here current day where everyone is packing a sniper. And it seems that the only real thing keeping snipers in check now are other snipers. Do you see the pattern that's happening? My point is we need to start from scratch and try again without letting our biased opinions towards our favorite and most hated weapon types get in the way and giving honest feed back based on balance and nor what's more comfortable for us to use. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *PVE* As far as PvE goes I never really noticed weapons being to OP (Besides Ghorn) or excessively weak (Besides Necrochasm at the time) but that's just me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ☆SUBCLASS BALANCING I honestly would like to see what happened to the Titan happen to all the subclasses. I feel like they should all be rebalanced and fined tuned since our new subs disturbed that balance. Just my opinion. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ☆EVENTS/DLC/MICRO TRANSACTIONS I love the events we have been having in the tower. Hell we were begging for some PvE events. From what I understand they are able to fund these events due to recently introducing micro transactions. And as much as I love the events I don't want them to replace dlc. I don't mind the micro's. Just so long as it stays cosmetic and doesn't become a "20 strange coins for 1000 silver!/320 armor and exotics for 2800 silver!" pay to win. I do feel like it's messed up that you use Rng for your cosmetics though. Getting people to blow $50 trying to get a blue skull? Or taking away the old emotes and making it a mystery grab bag that gives people paying money a "High chance of getting an emote they don't already have?" That means there is a small chance you could pay for something you already owned! That's a little messed up I feel. It's borderline gambling and can be unhealthy for some players. If they spend money you should guarantee they'll get a special mask or guarantee an emote they don't already have. Once again. My opinion. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ☆COMMUNICATION I get it Bungie always says they're listening and for the most part they do, but I'd like them to start talking more also. Sometimes I feel like they really are listening. A lot of things we asked for have happened (sparrow racing) but when it comes to things where the whole community is in a unanimous vote on something they want, like bringing back old raids and strikes, it just seems like our voices fall on deaf ears. Why does it seem that way? Because ultimately it's their game and they can do what they want but they also wanna keep us playing and happy. So we do have some say in what goes on because they wanna keep their players. A good example is when almost all of us didn't want Atheon to randomly teleport us. Deej himself told us he tried to do something about it, and he made sure we were heard, but the dev team was going to do it anyway. As sad as that news was it was the only time I can recall that we were given the honest truth about something instead of getting some roundabout answer. So that day we learned Bungie will ultimately do what they want with Destiny (to an extent) but at least we got an honest response from Deej. If he starts doing that again, I feel like it's a step in the right direction. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TL;DR: Do you like the direction destiny is going in and how can we make it better?Share your opinions and answer the poll so we can get Bungie honest feedback to help better the game. Discuss.

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  • I'm about half and half. I love how TTK was handled story and grimoire wise. It showed Bungie has figured out both how to tell a story in-game and also have awesome amounts of lore in the grimoire. In my opinion, TTK showed there is still hope for the awesome Destiny experience we were promised over a year ago. Not sure how I feel about the year 2 plan post TTK so far though. Sure these little events are fun, but only for the first day or so. I'd much rather have done substantial DLC that I have to pay for than this wussy little events paid by other peoples micro transactions. I'll reserve full judgment until we get this "biggest event since TTK" Bungie's been just starting to hype up. If it doesn't end up meaning more story and/or raids, then I'm probably done until Destiny 2.

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  • I want them to pull it together on the story and make the game something that a soloist could actually play l reach higher levels Just my request. A solo raid would be great [spoiler]yeh crota i know[/spoiler]

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    • Yeah they listen, on meaningless crap, we asked for sparrow racing, but not for that to replace PVE, neither did we ask for meaningless events btw, this aren't even PVE events. Remember when ToO was supposed to be a PVE events?. They actually think the raid is enough to keep PVE players happy until Destiny 2, btw THERE IS NO MORE PVE CONTENT COMING PEOPLE, DO NOT BELIEVE THE BULLSHIT DEEJ IS FEEDING YOU. I knew eventually they would take the HALO road and just update PVP and kill pve, and here we are, money grabbing events, pvp getting update every month, and the only pve addition is challenges to the raid, that is pretty much doing the raid the way people where doing it day one. I gave up hope on Bungie and this game, and as said by their boss even they did and are now concentrating more on Destiny 2, so good luck for those who decide to stick around the remaining 7 months of this game. In the end though they don't care as long as people keep getting suckered into microtransactions.

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    • They rly need to do something big on this game to save it, it actually dont worth the titel of beeing an mmo.... the whole planets are dead, there is no real open world, doing 6 strikes over and over again would be the death for any other game calling itself an mmo, destiny has way less content then other games, but bungie told us from the beginning that it would be a huge andventure, well its not. Actually Destiny isnt a huge game, it is a small game with little options of what you can do, dont wanna talk about the none exsiting Story.... I dont think they can fix this game, so lets wait till destiny 2 cames out and hope theyve learned how to do an mmo....

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      • No. Nope. Nein. Nie.

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      • I selected 50/50 when it should really be 90/10. I love this game. It's the grind, of all things, that brings me back. My friend list has dwindled a bit due to new games coming out but that's expected. I am very happy that they are trying to make pvp more balanced and it seems to be working to me. I get killed by all sorts of different guns lol and I've been using different ones too. I really want to see them be able to just affect pvp with weapons balance and leave pve alone but I'm ok with having to adjust to the changes. The new raid is a blast to play, it seems they took the best from both earlier raids and put it into one and it made it great(excluding loot drops). The only thing about this game that has me worried is the micro transactions. I'm a little scared that they are trying to work it in slowly to become a pay to win game.

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      • I miss Vanilla...

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        • The nerfing and buffing of everything is messing up the game a little bit

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          • Yes because of the little constant updates, new content, and ideas they are adding. No because of all this silver crap. Pay for a record book, really? Pay to reach level 25, really? Also, the 320 gear for a race is just stupid.

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            • Right now it is going nowhere. No announcements, nothing to be excited or espectating about.

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            • I love that they are adding new and different game mechanics into the game (sparrow racing). I mean, that's awesome and leaves room for expanding different and more interesting game play. Hopefully sometime in the future we'll have space combat! Just hoping. I dislike the silver system. I wouldn't mind it as much if you could earn these items in game. I understand you can earn these through the nightfall but I would like them to add these as rewards to every aspect of the game. Obviously with a small percentage of getting them. This gives you the ability to earn them and if you want you also have the option to buy.

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              • Why did u include competitive in the tags? Destiny is the poster child of casual public games....

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                • I love destiny ;-; my only game I ever usually play

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                  • I think it's in a much better place now than it was before

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                    • I was fine with what they were doing until they decided to sell MTAs that cost more than actually buying the game.

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                      • Good morning guardians! I chose 50/50 simply because I enjoy many aspects of this game but also dislike about the same amount of things. I have a few select friends I get to play with a couple to a few days a week and that's the only thing that's been keeping me on really. Also the positive online interactions I have with players I don't know. But fast approaching is the day when my friends and myself will be moving along to a better game that has people standing behind it with the goal in mind to give me a and my friends a balanced well thought out story and overall gameplay experience. One that encourages a less hostile community and more coherent positive feedback. I believe one of Bungies biggest issues started when they began listening to overly emotional and incessant complaining spewed from the mouths of people who didn't care to better the game itself but to selfishly better their own gaming experience. It's not to late to refresh this game and recreate what was once a very enjoyable game. But time is fast running out as more and more players on my friends list are turning to new games and never looking back. Which I believe will be very trendy in the new year if destiny continues in the direction it's going. If you read this far, though I have no way of knowing, you have my appreciation. Later guardians.

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                        • 50/50 I like racing, like trying new things, new raid is not half bad. The new weapon design is pretty cool. Hung jury has turned into my favorite primary from the new load. I don't like 318, 319, 320 with no flexibility. I actually like the house of wolves gear system the best. Yes we all went for similar perks but that's exactly what's happening now and it's exactly what will always happen. I also don't like the fact they got rid of some of the fun perks like carry more heavy ammo. Ghorn would be nice to see and for heaven sakes please stop nerfing everything. An in game grimore library also should be added at the speaker Now the real complaint. P2p matchmaking. I'm just going to leave that there

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                          • I'm skeptical. Been playing since alpha, been infatuated with this game since before... however with recent updates about how we're going to receive content in the upcoming months...scare me. Why? Because with all that new content will be microtransactions. And lets be honest we're all iffy on it, and as of recent there's been a boost pack added that definitely makes the ethics of bungie look [u]suspicious[/u].... at best... I'm scared for what will be in store for the future. Bungie isn't giving us a transparent schedule to look forward to, and the srl is fun, but half asses [b]in my opinion [/b]. 2 maps is a cop out, i think at least [b]4 [/b] should have been added. I want this game to succeed so badly...but it's just getting worse everytime i see it. And it's not only putting me as a dedicated player off, but a good portion of the fan base off as well. At this point i just want destiny to stop, and bring on the next actual instalment. No matter how ignorant or stupid that may sound. At the end of the day i want this game to succed since this has the potential to stand the test of time.

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                            • why is no higher? i thought TTK was better then HoW and TDB your poll is flawed there is so many salty people so quick to just say it sucks without even thinking about it

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                              • I dislike the way most games are moving. Catering only to PvP. Stories are starting to be scrapped completely. Microtransactions can be had led properly by many companies, but we will have to see if Bungie messes it up.

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                                • [i]the last thing we want to do is to make your gear obsolete[/i] Proceed to make gear obsolete 3 times in a row[spoiler]at least they nearly fixed it in HoW and then ttk came out[/spoiler]

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                                  • Strong think human smart, not a bad fighter, not a great one either.

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                                  • I've finally become bored of every end game activity. I'm closing in on max grimoire, and there's no DLC in sight. Not to mention all of the microtransactions and larger transactions, I'm a fan of clash and never really had a problem with microtransactions, but it just seems bungie is milking their players for everything they can. Then spark of light being sold for £25 in the store spelled the beginning of the end, I don't agree with their practices, and I'm not enjoying the game much in its current state. I will continue to play, for how long though, I don't know. So my answer is no, I do not like the way this game is going.

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                                  • 50/50 cause I'm not sure what's going on with destiny right now...

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                                  • I hate how every dlc makes old gear irrelevant and it takes more content then we get we get 2 new strikes yay oh but they're taking 4 away it's like why not keep old strikes and raids somewhat relevant

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                                  • I'm not a huge fan of microtransactions going forward, but i'll probably just wait and see, I still like actually playing the game for the most part.

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