What about fist of havoc? I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that it's easy to counter? I don't think so. I think Fist of Havoc is probably the hardest super to counter. Once that shit is popped, there ain't no getting out of it lol. Unless some bullshit happens within the game! Which happens when you get lucky :P Striker Titan, [b][i][u]in my opinion[/u][/i][/b], is & always has been one of the best subclasses in the game for PvP. It's great. I loved having Strikers on my team for Y1 Trials. I'm confident in my gun skill, that's why I love using Nightstalker. It's neutral game is the best in the game, again, in my opinion. & the super allows me to force players to meet me in the neutral too. Although I must admit, I'm hella jealous of Defenders because they have a grenade that does every my super does, but better. Loll, it's faster, easier, more convenient in every way, & obviously much more readily available than a super. I'm still ok though cus I'd still most likely use Vortex anyway for the smoke-nade combo. That's why I run straight discipline-strength build on NS.