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Edited by Zanithos: 12/6/2015 9:46:10 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa, hold up! Tess Everis is RNG now?

Alright, so I just got done reading through the December update in it's entirety. For the most part, if was what I expected. Sunbreakers are getting nerfed, challenge mode is a thing, and Tess Everis is going to sell her emotes in bundles that are not as "predictable" as buying them up front. Wait, what was that last part again? [quote]Before we go, here’s a final shopping tip: If you see something you like on the Eververse store – something you’ve been meaning to pick up any day now – this is a good time to grab it. The December Update will refresh the inventory available from Tess. She’ll put the stuff you see now in some bags you can still acquire with some Silver, but their contents will be less direct and predictable.[/quote] So basically what you're saying is that we'll still be giving you actual, real-life money for items, but we won't even be able to know what we're buying until after the transaction is complete. Is this seriously going to be a thing? Did Bungie see how well 343i did by selling REQ Packs in Halo 5, and now wants a piece for themselves? Now, this could all just be a case of terribly unclear wording (which has happened before), and maybe the emotes come bundled together in groups instead (I.e.: emotions, sports, reactions, etc...), which I would honestly be fine with, as long as the price stays relatively low. However, from the way it was worded, it totally sounds like after the update I could be handing Bungie anywhere from $5-$20 and getting the exact same emotes I've already acquired (or none at all), which is totally not okay. Seriously though, if someone from Bungie could reply to this and let us all know what exactly is happening, that would be great. As a Destiny fan since launch, and someone who has purchased emotes in the past (and would like to continue to do so going forwards), I would like to know the full details of how the new system will work [i]before[/i] it is implemented, not after it's too late. Best regards, -Z [u][b]Edit:[/b][/u] After reading some replies, I have three new questions: 1: When buying these RNG Eververse packs, is there a possibility of getting duplicate emotes, or will they 100% be ones you don't already own? 2: Will there be new emotes available? 3: Will the refund system still be a thing? [b][u]Edit 2:[/u][/b] Just got off work, and wow, this is trending. Looks like a few more people than just me have the same questions. :P That being said, the general consensus of commenters is that there will be new emotes come December, which will be directly purchasable, while only the old ones will become RNG. While it wasn't really mentioned in the update, I can find that pretty easy to believe, but until I hear directly from Bungie, I have no idea whether it's true or not. Regardless of the theorised "new stock" at Eververse, the fact that the old Emotes seem to be going RNG is still far from ideal. As one commenter put it: [quote]I don't order a pizza HOPING to get the one I want. I order a pizza the way I want it. So with this RNG.. If I'm buying with real money, I want what I want... Not some random purchase. Just sayin..[/quote] [b][u]Edit 3:[/u][/b] After reading [i]even more[/i] comments, someone has brought up the possibility of the old emotes working like the Eva Levante's emblems and shaders, which are directly purchasable, but change from time to time. While this is better than "bags" (whatever that means), the current system works just fine, so I fail to see why they couldn't just add another page to the Eververse store, similar to how the vault and kiosks work. Unless we get detailed feedback from Bungie saying otherwise, we're forced to assume that the old emotes will be sold in bags similar to the Festival Of The Lost loot bags, but only for actual money, which really doesn't make me feel any better about this. [u][b]Edit 4:[/b][/u] So another day has gone by, and guess what? We have sparrow racing! Isn't that great? They even announced the microtransactions already! Prepare your wallets guardians, looks like we're in for another Festival Of The Lost style event, complete with limited-time gear that provides no benefit, is most likely RNG-based, and therfore costs more than the game itself to acquire one item you really want, if you're lucky. I'm honestly done trying to get a reply at this point, so this will be my final edit. My only advice to you is to spread the word, and whatever you do, don't buy any RNG microtransactions from Tess. Maybe if we make our opinion known with our wallets, the RNG element will cease being a thing. Probably not, but we can hope, right?

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  • Bungie if u truely are making eververse transactions random. This Is a very bad idea. When people spend real money there should be no ambiguity.

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  • [quote]but we won't even be able to know what we're buying until after the transaction is complete. Is this seriously going to be a thing?[/quote] that's what happened with the Skull masks at Halloween - what better way to get money than through real paid for RNG - it's a gold mine - people/kids will pay $40+ just to try and RNG an item.

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  • I skip over that section, now that I have been informed of this, I will not be purchasing any more emotes from bungie if this is the reality of what their planning. I suggest others do so. They are using gambling type structures like casinos to make you play more and spend your money more, if you guys haven't noticed. This is taking it too far.

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    • All valid points which should be addressed [b][u]before[/u][/b] they implement the patch. Bump.

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    • Bungie is very clever with wording. I doubt its a mistake that its very unclear.

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    • It looks like they are taking the same approach as Call Of Duty where you pay for supply drops and they produce random results. Honestly, just don't buy them and they will change it back or it will go away. The money is what keeps it alive.

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    • Edited by Neo-Cybermario: 12/4/2015 7:14:30 PM
      we should have the option to buy a bag for less silver (RNG) and the emote we want directly for a higher price. Bungie keeps showing their inexperience in the MMO side of the game, please, PLEASE take a look at how other mmo's handle their premium stores and do it right Bungie. :/

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    • This is actually really fascinating. When Bungie started selling emotes you had basically three groups of people: - Those that would never pay for an emote so didn't care - Those that jumped at the chance to throw money at their screen - Those that complained about having to pay for more content that should be included Now Bungie added a new wrinkle to the system that created a subset of group 2: - Those that would pay for emotes but think that RNG is BS I suppose there could be a fifth group of those that think RNG when using real money is good but let's be honest, human evolution got rid of those people long ago. I kind of have a feeling that this is more about Bungie not wanting Tess's catalogue to be too big on screen so they just take out all the old stuff and replace it with a single mystery bag.

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    • The festival of loot was a experiment by Bungie to see if people would buy lucky bag rng packages. This must have been a resounding success(thanks guys who wanted that shit mask) now we have proved we will buy random loot for real cash. I have no issue with the silver and the things it buys but I have issue with buying things and luck deciding whether I get what I want.

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      • It sounds like they will bring in new emotes, but place "season 1" emotes into a loot bag to incentives the purchase of new Silver content.

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      • Going a little forward, basically next year destiny will be free to play, but pay to win.

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      • This is retarded. If I want to buy a shirt, I go to a store and buy a shirt. If I don't want a shirt...I don't go to the store and buy one. Here in the Eververse we have the same concept. Want something...buy it. Don't want something...don't buy it. How does that not make sense? If you want the old emotes that bad, gamble. If you don't, don't. If I feel like something is not a good idea, I don't do it.

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      • God damit

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      • My god people can't -blam!-en read. It clearly states that her inventory is being refreshed. Meaning it's being replaced with new emotes. He then goes on to say that the stuff she has now will still be available via random packages. Meaning if you want something that she has now after the update you're going to have to gamble for it. How can you not understand that?

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        • Who cares, im never going to buy silver, and as long as they keep it cosemtic stuff, ill keep playing.

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          • Do you have a link to the update? It isn't showing the News or Updates section for me. -Razlath

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          • I think what they mean is that she will be getting a new set of emotes and these ones will get moved to the rng ones

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          • Edited by Dirty_Dan_117: 12/4/2015 4:33:41 PM
            Did you read the update properly? The old emotes are being replaced by new ones. If you still want the old ones, you can buy them through the random bags, but the new ones will be bought normally. I mean, it says it RIGHT there. "The December update will refresh Tess' inventory." Meaning new emotes. Duh.

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            • Unlike 343 tho spending money on dance moves is pointless compared to weapons,armor(cosmetic) and vehicles 343 did it to let us get shit early and more fun weapons and vehicles Bungie did it because they are greedy idiots who think we have the combined iq of Peter Griffen

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            • Not a case of terrible wording. Just a case of poor reading comprehension skills.

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              • They said Tess will have a NEW stock of items, so new emotes. Also, if you look at the store and any items you currently own, you cannot repurchase any previously owned items from Tess. You can re-obtain it if you lost it but cannot re-buy it. I don't think they would screw us over to the point where we have a chance of getting emotes we already own.

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                • She has a return policy (so it doesn't matter.

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                • Best idea everyone, go on rob lox and play phantom forces!!! MIND BLOWN

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                • Don't buy it

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                • Vanity items dont affect gameplay so why bother getting worked up over it

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                  • F*cking RNG taken to the extreme. I'm telling you, Bungie and their love for this rng structured gaming will be the death of Destiny.

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