That's a good assessment of the current state of the forums, unfortunately. I get what you're saying, but if you look at bungie's previous updates, are they really listening? Ex. They fix final round in high impact snipers, then, introduce luck in the chamber for high impact snipers, really? (I know, it's kind of a bad example) to me it seems that they are introducing problem to stir the pot, or plain stupid, lazy, poor testing, etc. Alot of the updates have done no more than ruin aspects of the game and change others that don't need change. How long have people been complaining about KF loot system? How after has bungie acknowledged this concern? So again I ask, are they really listening? Or just making you think that they do?