It makes total sense to bomb Syrian cities after people were shot in France. Total sense.
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It would make perfect sense if you actually understood what is going on over there. Skimming the news channel for 20 seconds or hearing some other yokel talk about it won't fill you in. Let the people who do this for a living take care of business. Continue smoking pot and jerking off, these issues will always be there, whether you're paying attention or not.
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Edited by Elitespear: 11/29/2015 6:53:23 PMWhat's going over there then? Tell me exactly what is happening there please and how bombing Syrian civilians is relevant to an attack carried out by some French, Belgian and Algerians.
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There's a civil war before between Syrian president Bashir Assad's government forces and ISIS. ISIS wants a global caliphate (look up caliphate, it's peachy). Assad is backed by Russia. The west does not support either Assad or ISIS (obviously) if ISIS takes both Iraq and Syria it becomes another lawless safe haven to launch 9-11 style attacks on the rest of the world (Afghanistan memories?) No one is bombing civilians, they are bombing militants. The militants use 4th generational gorilla tactics I.e no uniforms for the exact purpose to confuse their enemies, when average people who are not educated on this type of warfare see them they believe they are civilians.
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Really? Then how come so many civilians are getting killed when these militants get bombed? Here's a thought. Has anyone considered that people are joining groups like IS and the levante and the taliban etc etc because their circumstances are so desperate that they are left with no choice. Their lives are desperate because everything they have has been destroyed, their families, their homes etc etc. Now, how does bombing a city like Raqqa actually help destroy IS? There are civilians in there, and they are dying as a direct result of military action against IS. So, what are the repercussions of those? Does anyone actually think that the civilians go "ah it's ok mate. I know you killed me brother and parents because you're trying to kill those bad guys in Islamic State. Keep up the good work Murica!". Think about it. The only thing that bombing Syria does, is continue the cycle. IS targets have been getting bombed for a long time now and they are stronger than ever.
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Where are the sources of these civilians getting killed? So you're saying they're justified killing thousands of innocent people because their lives are hard? Right, my life sucks I'm gonna go shoot up a concert in Paris. Gimme a break. Appeasement does not work when you understand their goals. When they utilize suicide bombers to achieve goals it goes beyond desperation, your dealing with people who are willing to off themselves for a greater cause, Allah, the establishment of the caliphate and sharia law. There are no other religions in their eyes. But continue feeling bad for them.
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Edited by Elitespear: 11/29/2015 8:07:57 PMI'm saying it's justified? Not at all, I'm saying that military action is pushing moderates into radicals. Does that not seem logical to you? It's not about appeasement. You nor I can actually understand their mindset because neither of us have anything close to the sorts of life experiences a lot of these people have suffered through. These people are left with nothing but revenge, they have no education, they do not enjoy the luxuries of being able to see both sides of a coin. They are shown their lives being destroyed and they are told how they can enact revenge and there is no-one there to tell them the actual truth. Then they are brainwashed and after that there isn't any going back. To sit and try to say, "ooh what you're doing isn't actually right mate" when you don't even understand how their minds think it's absurd. There's no point, once they have gone down that road there is no coming back. The only thing to prevent things like this happening is stopping people from going down that road in the first place and levelling another city with airstrikes isn't going to do that. Are you really trying to deny that civilians are being killed in western air strikes? Come on man, just use google. All the info is there to be seen if you actually look for it. [quote]But continue feeling bad for them..[/quote] Yes actually, when children are being killed by forces that represent myself, I do actually feel bad. Don't you?
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They were already radical, that's why the military was sent to deal with them in the first place. Logic? And yes I have a great deal of understanding of they do what they do, it's very simple. Allah. Nothing more and nothing less. They are religious fanatics. Continue to feel sorry for a bunch of murdering psychopaths who -blam!- children, animals, treat women like crap and want to kill you.
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So all of Syria is radicalised? First I've heard.
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You obviously haven't really heard much of anything. What's your solution to this situation, I'm curious.
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Edited by Elitespear: 11/29/2015 9:29:27 PMSorry, are you trying to tell me that bombing everything IS a solution? It's starting to appear I've heard a lot more than you, when you tell me the reason they're doing this is purely because of their religion.