Welcome to the world you live in. I rather have the US spying on my ass then live under Islamic or Chinese rule. Pretty pathetic that these so called "Americans" would talk about their own country like that? If you don't like it, then why live here? Would you prefer china? Newyork gunner huh? Most likely of mideastern descent, easy to talk crap about the government without fear of reprisal. Hmmm interesting.

Mid eastern? Lmao how brainless are you? I'm not afraid to speak out against the government. I'll speak the same way I am now to anyone in the government as well as the military. You don't like it how about [b]you[/b] leave :*

So you're ok with your government illegally spying on you? China spies on their own people, what makes America any better than China then? "If you don't like it leave" that's what the red coats said to the founding fathers before they decided to fight and stand up to the tyrannical government controlling them

[quote]So you're ok with your government illegally spying on you? China spies on their own people, what makes America any better than China then? "If you don't like it leave" that's what the red coats said to the founding fathers before they decided to fight and stand up to the tyrannical government controlling them[/quote] Yes. They do. Because we are Americans. They did, but those were the redcoats, not OUR brothers in arms. I have ZERO problems. Got family and nice apartment, hopefully the VA home loan gets approved for this nice house up north here. I'm am very happy with the current state of affairs. Take off the tinfoil hat and you'll be okay, no 2012, no deathsquads or any such thing.

Lolololol tin foil? So Edwards Snowdens documents and proof of how big and illegal the government spying program is makes me tin foil? My God you're an even bigger fool than I thought. What makes USA better than countries like Russia an China? Land of the free my ass. The troops are pawns to a system and you're a follower of why America is going to a crap hole. People like you that just follow the system blindly are why the government can do whatever it wants.

[quote]Lolololol tin foil? So Edwards Snowdens documents and proof of how big and illegal the government spying program is makes me tin foil? My God you're an even bigger fool than I thought. What makes USA better than countries like Russia an China? Land of the free my ass. The troops are pawns to a system and you're a follower of why America is going to a crap hole. People like you that just follow the system blindly are why the government can do whatever it wants.[/quote] You only have to do "Lol" once, people are okay with that, the multiple, lolololol, is usually an indicator that you really have zero rebuttal to a very astute observation. Its logical for governments to take protective measures for its citizens. I havent had them coming to my door, have you? You're delusional. Anybody working any body is a "pawn", thats how things work, by reducing it to its literal base, you're absolutely right, we are all pawns of a grander scheme. I don't for a second believe America is going down a "crap" hole, by you admitting to that, you've admitted to defeat, so much for the whole, "stand up against red coats for government tyranny!!", thats goes out the window. So what now? You said you bit of communist BS that the Chinese/Islamist love to read an eat, infact I wouldn't be surprised if they come calling to you, after all, you speak their language!! Down with Soldiers, Pawns!! Down with our government!!...oh I forget, "lolololololol". Anyways, anything else? We've already establish that you're no American and you love to hate on our boys an gals in the service, proclaiming your love for the redcoats and chinese.

I'm not a boot licker and blind defender lmao Communist? Can you even define communism correctly? As for economics, I'm into the free market of Austrian economics. And protective measures? Us government an troops are also sworn in to protect the us constitution, the same one the government breaks time after time. How is that protective an how is that serving a country?

[quote]I'm not a boot licker and blind defender lmao Communist? Can you even define communism correctly? As for economics, I'm into the free market of Austrian economics. And protective measures? Us government an troops are also sworn in to protect the us constitution, the same one the government breaks time after time. How is that protective an how is that serving a country?[/quote] Yes, we all took an Oath, do you remember that? "...from all enemies, foreign and domestic..." Yes, I remembered it all and executed it beautifully. Here is a website for you... AboveTopSecret, google it and try it. You my friend are delusional and if you believe that crap, try this site, fools with bigger and crazier dreams then yours manifest here, though there are also great thought provoking discussions on the very issues you have problems with. Nothing like the Destiny community, these are all legit people with degrees, talking about a wide array of issues that challenge our world, together. Yes there are sides, hardcore leftist, rightist and commies like you. I think you'll fit in, you'll most likely catch me in the Social Unrest forums, with refreshing the recent forum topics list to get the latest.

You literally avoided everything I had to say in my argument. That's quite amusing, I can tell your small brain can't handle rational arguments that go against your emotions.