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11/8/2015 2:05:55 PM
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Just because you don't agree with the issue, does not give you the right to undermine it.
Newsflash, your opinion is not fact.
The weapon parts issue is part of a much larger issue entirely that over 75% of this community can't bring themselves to see.
They are literally making the same mistakes that they did last year, scaling the game to make people have to play longer to progress, now with even simple things.
Downplaying any and all criticism, because you have some unwavering loyalty to complete strangers, is backwards and self-defeating if you seriously have played this game and enjoy it.
While I'll admit some people critique in the wrong way, you "adults" talking down to any and [b]all[/b] criticism of this game is both hypocritical, and naive.
Wake up and realize that most of us critique, because [b]we want this game to be better.[/b]
Why is that such an evil thing?
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Also, by saying make the game better you are basically saying give me all the weapons and items I want.
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That's actually not what I'm saying at all, and is such an overused and stale argument that I'm not even going down that path with you. You have to be able to think more critically than that, please. Don't go to lowest common denominator...
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Occam's razor. I have read nothing in your arguments to suggest that which is otherwise, what am I to think? Don't just tell me I have you wrong, tell me why
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Wow, the law of Parsimony allows you to deflect? Nice try. Occam's Razor suggests quite simply that Deej is an ass and an amateur and those like him are most likely to forgive it. Let's go one step further since you went there? Occam's Razor leads us to conclude, perhaps falsely but more than likely, that a lot of the people taking issue to the OP and his supporters don't: A) Understand much (if anything) about PR or customer management and are completely unqualified to offer opinion - and shouldn't. B) Have very limited education, cause the rule of STFU till you know better doesn't appear nor is it parsed with charming segues like 'I don't know much but..', C) Are in fact the 'feelers' here cause God knows, no thought or respect for thought, let alone best practices went in their 1/4 second reflection. D) Are the crowd with the least respect and most arrogance cause why else weigh in when they have nothing but unqualified opinion, based exclusively feelings? An alarming percentage of this country have no qualification, credential, experience or genius and insufficient respect, patience or humility to get there and yet, they still act like they alone 'get it'.
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The Occam's razor comment was a shitty answer I gave to a stupid lowest common denominator argument about the fact that I was being offered no alternative answer, to be fair tone is hard to convey/read in text but I already dealt with that below. The part about it being obvious deej is bad at his job is nonsensical - unless you are claiming to know more about the job of a PR rep in a large successful company than said rep and his employers. As for deej's tone, why should he not respond In any way he thinks is funny? I found it funny too (very slightly, but the reaction has brought me more joy than eating candy) , and that has been the way the weekly update has been written for a long time.
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I am in PR, crisis and executive management but that need not be the qualification. A first year student would know better. In fact, [u]any credible customer service specialist[/u] would know better and [u]throughout this thread capable business and service people[/u] at all levels have addressed both how egregious the mistake is and what the normal outcome would be (ie termination with cause). You want him to be cheeky? Then he can try film or comedy. No one and I mean that - [u]no one professional agrees[/u] with your assessment and hasn't - in the history or relations or service. Don't assume that just because someone has a public job at a significant corporation, that they are competent or professional. I have seen $5 million/yr execs screw up freshmen issues (then costing billions) and I have seen $30k service reps make calls that earn nationally renown. Deej is not only a disaster, he is one of the worst voices in PR today and I have given speeches citing his blunders to the laughter of now thousands attending.
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Yeah and I'm the Queen of Sheba
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No, you're just another uneducated under achiever who, without qualification or credential, experience or genius thinks his half second of pop reflection is equal to or superior than people who actually respect the work, best practices and lessons learned. Oh... And you're not Rob Downey either so cheeky attempts at comebacks are outside your repertoire and well above your pay grade too.
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Hah, I'm not even out of university, what pay grade? Why does money suddenly come into it? I realised a while ago that it was easier to sound smart on the Internet, or like, use big words. Then I realised it is better to try and provide information accessibly.
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Then I'll forgive your amateurism on account of training wheels but you're not gonna succeed at University unless you can defer to professional standards and independently discover them - so do so. Till then, spare us all the information accessibility crap. You've peddled exclusively in rhetoric, sniping and dingbat. Not an auspicious beginning.
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You have barely said anything that means a thing, you sound like the love child of a thesaurus and a pod person, you make sensationalist claims, so please, enjoy my mute
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Well, if you can't shut up or respect anything beyond your own rhetoric, going away will do. Good riddance kid and don't try this crap on your profs either.
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Edited by FullestCross226: 11/8/2015 10:36:18 PMI agree wholeheartedly. Sadly you will be trolled. Just take solace in the fact that you are right and there are others that think like you. Anybody that agrees a Community Manager should be allowed to talk to the Destiny Community like DeeJ does, is not qualified to offer an opinion. Thank you for your breakdown on the matter and have a wonderful day.
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Edited by ColNapalm: 11/9/2015 4:24:05 AMThank you. I don't care if get trolled, its past time to take back the conversations and force the trolls back under the bridge till they can adopt the social contractz Deej included. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Deej is not simply awful at his work, he's a disaster in any public facing role. This shouldn't be debatable. Professionally, its not. Cheers and thanks again. Have yourself a fabulous night too.
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Why use Occam's Razor? Why not use Newton' Flaming Laser Sword and just end the argument?
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Haha, I didn't really want to say stupid shit like that, but the lowest common denominator comment tickled me
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Because most of us want to play the game for longer. I like doing the raid. I do it when there are no rewards available to me to help friends. If I could get all the gear straight away, I would probably lose interest. The sheer fact that I need weapon parts makes me do court of oryx. I also enjoy court of oryx, bit would probably not bother with it if o had no reason to do so. Bungie is trying to keep our interest because it is better for everyone.
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Lol. "Please sir can I have another?"
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Again, that is backwards and self defeating. You enjoy this game, I'm assuming. And by all accounts, there's plenty of reason to. But what you are arguing, is that because Bungie has not made a well enough end-game, you would rather waste your time with filler grind, on a process that was already working properly to begin with, to give yourself more artificial playtime? That's what I'm understanding? Rather than actually make court of oryx worth your time, by adding extra gear, or court specific Gear to obtain, you would rather only go there [b]because you are forced to find ways to supplement the new grind?[/b]
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I don't know why you have to assume anything, I pretty much explicitly stated that I enjoy destiny. But as for the grind: Destiny is a reward driven game. I also enjoy just playing the game. So therefore I like the fact that I am pushed into performing different tasks to get certain things. I have never had not enough weapons parts, and I have fully upgraded quite a few guns. I do not feel that I need more guns/ armour, but I do like to spend a bit of time using a gun at an easier level activity where I upgrade it and get used to it.
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Well, deflecting my point about court of oryx entirely...I didn't ask you at all whether or not you had a problem with weapon parts. Although now I see why you're bashing other people who are having a problem with parts. But I'm not going to talk circles with you, just to have you avoid the argument entirely. Hope this new system treats you well, hitting that weapon part wall someday is gunna hurt, might wanna put a helmet on.
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Edited by AmiableWolf84: 11/8/2015 2:33:57 PMBut court of oryx is worth my time? I get experience and materials for my shiny new gun. I think you want better weapons, possibly new legendarys from court. I don't have time or inclination to use a lot of the guns I currently have. Court is not hard enough to warrant 300+ weapons
