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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk:
11/3/2015 9:51:34 PM
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This community is a battered wife and Bungie is the abusive husband....
Before I get started for those of you who are not aware I regret to inform you that Gamespot released an article today covering the future of DLC content in Destiny. This is a direct quote from the article.
[quote]Destiny's microtransactions and paid expansions are both selling well, Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg said on an earnings call today, November 3. [i][u]As such, Destiny players can expect to see more of both in the future[/u][/i].[/quote]
So the microtransactions....the microtransactions that were supposedly implemented to fund future content is going to stay....but we will all still have to fork out money for DLC.
Yet there is very little outrage over this prime example of consumer abuse.
So that brings me back to my analogy.
[b]The Kotaku article sheds light on the fact that Bungie and Activision cut up Vanilla Destiny to be sold separately. [/b]
The forums barely bat an eye. The article shows that not only was the game cut up, but that it was cut up for the sole purpose of being sold separately at a premium just so they could squeeze more money out of us. Any normal community would have been up in arms over such a revelation. The torches and pitchforks would be lit and the forums would have burned to the ground.
But no. Not this community.
You all just shrugged and kept moving forward. Oh well. Its not [i][b]Bungie's[/b][/i] fault. Its all Activision. Bungie loves us and wants to be good to us they just can't. So I am just gonna keep playing and hope it gets better. I know Bungie can change.
[i]I kry errytim. [/i]
[b]Microtransactions are introduced into a game that most of us have paid over $120 for[/b]
Once again mild outrage from a handful of players, but overall this community just rolls over and takes it in the ass with pleasure. Thank you Bungie senpai for this great gift.
They cut content and set it aside to be sold separately at a premium [i][b]YET AGAIN[/b][/i] and no one seems to really care. Some even naively believe that the microtransactions would lead to free DLC in the future. The rest of you all just shrug and then say well its not [b][i]Bungie's[/i][/b] fault. Its cl;early just Activision. Bungie wants to love us and be good to us, but they just can't. So I am gonna keep playing and hope it gets better. I know Bungie can change.
[i]I kry errytim[/i]
Every misstep and every abuse is almost immediately forgiven and shoved aside in favor of blind hope and naive support. Each and every time they abuse or take advantage of the community you all just shrug and make excuses for them. You say its not their fault or that its just how the game business works. Or that they HAVE to make money somehow right?
[b][u]NO OTHER GAME WORKS LIKE DESTINY DOES AND NO OTHER GAME HAS TROUBLE MAKING MONEY. PLENTY OF GAMES MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY AND STILL DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR PLAYERBASE.[/u] [/b]
[u]Witcher 3 for example released over a dozen FREE DLC packs and their entire season pass was $25. The latest DLC called "Hearts of Stone" got a better review score than ANY of the Destiny content that has been released and yet it only costs $10.
Bethesda is another prime example. They have released games like Fallout 3 and Skyrim all to critical and [i]FINANCIAL[/i] success. They released quality DLC for a fair price and they made a FORTUNE.
Bioware released Mass Effect 3 with quality DLC for a fair price and even threw in FREE multiplayer DLC packs every month or so. Yet it was the most financially successful game in the franchise. [/u]
You people need to wake the -blam!- up and look around you. Look at all the games that have been released since Destiny launched and look at how many have used the kind of underhanded tactics that has been used with Destiny.
Stop using "Business" as an excuse as if it alleviates ALL abuses.
Stop using your hours played as an excuse as if you are in too deep to be treated with respect.
Stop shrugging your -blam!-ing shoulders as if there is nothing you can do.
Stop acting like there is nothing wrong.
Stop acting like Bungie owns your -blam!-ing dignity and self respect just because you happen to like the game.
And for the love of god stop forgiving them every single time they decide to abuse your trust as a consumer. You are just like a battered wife that loves her husband too much to realize that he is a steaming pile of abusive shit and that you can do BETTER for yourself and that you DESERVE to be treated better.
For -blam!- sake.
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Let's take a serious look at this. There are so many factors involved. First point, the american dollar isn't worth crap. Second, technology, studios, and top of the line equipment is rising in price. Used games are a problem. The industry wanted GameStop to go away to get their money but gamers wanted it to stay. MS and Sony both wanted DRM restrictions, but gamers crucified X1 and Sony knees got wobbly while backtracking on a idea both companies shared. Remember EA with their online gamer pass to combat used game buying? So how do developers and publishers get their money now? DLCs. Before Destiny, there was Call of Duty and Battlefield. The console gaming community spoke with their dollars and it said loudly "we will buy DLCs". So instead of strict DRM, instead of losing money, publishers and companies sell you DLCs. Destiny is not a culprit, nor are the other companies that sell DLCs. This is simply the results of a mutated industry shaped by the hands of developers AND consumers. This is gaming. Gaming is expensive. If you can't keep up, stick to board games or don't buy. 60 dollar games don't generate the revenue anymore. Hell, most games are 100 dollars now. You buy them. They call em collectibles. Then you trade them into GameStop a month later for 20 bucks credit.
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The community is a battered wife and the rest of the community just keeps hitting her. Self abuse I guess.
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8 RepliesI purchased all DLC for Skyrim and clocked in just under a 1000 hours playing that game in its heyday, I have nearly doubled that time playing Destiny. I, and what appears many others as well, see no problem continuing to spend OUR hard earned money to prolong the game's lifespan. You don't want to spend any more money on Destiny, fine, move on to another game or don't, keep playing Destiny without buying future DLC because you CAN do that as well. And ps... STFU
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Edited by aceebro: 11/4/2015 3:59:08 PMI legitimately have no problem with cosmetic microtransactions on top of expansions. Them getting more money doesn't harm me in some way.
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4 RepliesYou have said what I've lost the drive to bother saying anymore. It won't change, and never will. This is a new generation of gaming consumers (and I stress consumer). All a game needs in order to sell today is bells, whistles, and flashing lights - hype train/commercial. You'll even have kids (and some "adults"...) who steal their parent's card to buy the next awesomeness. Consumers today defend companies against any and all naysayers with zealot level loyalty. Companies notice this and no longer bother with beating competition with quality, and just focus on hype. Destiny was a great game that was dissected into just a good one. Though, A LOT of factors played into that - egos and greed were likely the biggest. All one can do is hope (hope.....) Destiny 2 at least tries to be better...
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Edited by CarpentryHero: 11/4/2015 4:30:39 PMBattered nothing have you seen how vocal this community is? He side steps whether or not the smaller DLC's will be free, which just adds more questions. It's a fluff article
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Edited by XEPHERYS: 11/4/2015 4:34:40 PMOther than the fact that you are clearly too ignorant to even understand your own argument, let's look at a few brief facts: 1. The microtransactions are doing well? Shocker - of course they are! 2. There will be more? What what?! 3. They are to fund off-annual content (what we purchased with a season pass in year 1). They were not designed and Bungie has never said they were to offset the costs of large, annual expansion DLC (like TTK). 4. So you are literally crying about shit that you don't even understand or purposefully, willfully are blind to. QQ more, kiddo. Bungie has never "abused my trust", and they certainly don't "own my dignity". My balls are not, have never been, nor will ever live in Bungie's purse. Bungie, however, has done nothing wrong here. They are acting like a responsible business, making money for shareholders while providing a product that MILLIONS of people enjoy every day. In other words, stop being an entitled brat, you millenial jerkwad, and either STFU or stop playing the game.
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1 ReplyIf Bungie doesn't beat me, he doesn't love me.
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Incoming retarded 12 year old desticles that will defend this game with their life.
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Pretty much sums it up. As soon as I saw micro-tran$action$ in the game i knew bungie couldn't help themselves. Its been fun but fallout 4 will be my new game.[spoiler]side note, rocket league was a free game and I have over 40 some hours in it.[/spoiler]
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You don't have to play, no one is making you. You can log out at any time you entitled self righteous little twat. You're analogy is not only terrible its insulting to real victims. You're a child and your views are naive.
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When you use an outrageously inappropriate, unwarranted analogy to preface your statement, you lose all credibility. I'm not taking this too seriously, I'm just pointing out that name dropping domestic violence to emphasize a company's questionable business practices is a tad ridiculous, and frankly ignorant.
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1 ReplyDid they cut it up to sell it separately...Yes! I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that. Is it going to cost you more money in the future... I'm sure it will. The question is do you enjoy playing Destiny? If you do buy the DLC, buy the emotes, support the company that entertains you. I just checked your stats you have played roughly 16 days in destiny. That's over 384 hours. And you complain about the 120+ dollars you have spent. That is less than 50 cents an hour. When I was a kid and you could still go to the mall and hit Aladdin's castle, I'd shell out 50 cents maybe even a dollar for 5-10 min of video game entertainment. Just ask yourself if you enjoy playing the game, if you don't then stop giving evil Bungie and Activision your money. And if your here on the forums just being a troll, congratulations your post is in the top 4 in the all forums list. Maybe you should put that on your resume.
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1 ReplyEdited by Grimgi: 11/4/2015 12:44:47 PMSorry, but you are incredibly naive and childish to think that Bungie and Activision shouldn't seek out easy profits where they can. You dismiss the main counter to your shitty argument blindly.... Bungie is not a non-profit organization, nor are they a shitty little indy game development company working to gain the respect of a player base. Destiny has reached over 25 million registered players and will only continue to grow. Destiny is not a single player, campaign playthrough game like the Witcher and Fallout series are. It is more of an evolving MMO. An MMO that we don't have to pay a monthly subscription for. If you don't like the model type, then by all means, play the Fallout 4 story over and over and over again and see if you can get 1500 hours out of it. Why in the -blam!- would anyone in their right mind put out free content when they know millions of people will gladly pay for it, and they can use said money to make more content?
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I've tried man, this community doesn't listen. I've warned them about micro-transactions and I've warned them about paid dlc still coming. I don't even bother anymore.
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2 RepliesWhenever I was little and heard the term, "battered woman", I was confused as to why someone would deep fry their wife and eat her. : /
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Edited by YATM: 11/4/2015 4:17:36 PM[quote]This community is a battered wife and Bungie is the abusive husband....[/quote] Funny, I see it the other way around.
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2 RepliesWife likes a beating, if she didn't, she would of been gone a long time ago.
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I think if I have to pay for yet another dlc I'm just going to move on from destiny
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This "community" is primarily composed addicts with buyers remorse. It's hysterical how many people on here complain about how bad the game is and how it's dying, yet those same people have played over 1000 hours and still play everyday. There are a few people on here that are actually having fun, but the rest should either quit playing and quit writing on these forums, or have fun. It's a game, not a job, and you're not slaves unless you've allowed yourself to become one.
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Best description of a gaming community that makes sense
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That's why I'm gonna wait until the year 4 "-blam!- all the year 3 players" bundle and then I'll jump back in for a bit.
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You know it's not that I don't notice. I notice, I notice a lot I'm just not surprised anymore. Activation was already a shady group and Bungie has just followed suit. It was bound to happen.
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Wow look at all the but hurt desticals trying to stick up for budgie but -blam!-ing everyone sooooo funny
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Sorry you're not getting praise for that. It was well done. Unfortunately 95% of the kids on this forum are delusional fan boys that would sooner cut your throat than ever believe bungie could do wrong. Denial. There's a lot of it here.
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Destiny is a good game made by good creators and with that said we as the consumer will never have a say in what they do....they are huge corporations they have people working and designing everything the community can tell them anything but they will do what they want and I'm ok with that
