BIG EDIT: Dont forget to press the up arrow if you like this because thats what Bungie looks at, and a lot of haters be pressin the down. dont let them control this thread.
Many people just want to play raids for the six member experience. So how about an easier version of the raids, with dumbed down puzzles but throw more enemies at them. For instance:
VoG - players only have to defend one conflux each time. Center, left then right. The templar has no shields. Make gorgons easier to kill and dont get stronger. Have the jumping platforms already out. And no gate keeper or oracles while fighting aetheon
With these changes:
Now you can add matchmaking and take out the exotic chest and and make it one nightfall drop after beating it and keep playtime incentive for veteran raiders like me. Hopefully im not in minority here
I bring this up because one of my friends FINALLY did VoG because he never had time before and he only had time now cause we were all high lvl and we could breeze through it. IT WAS A BLAST : ) and he loved it. VoG is also my favorite and i love running it still.
Edit: The reason they should do this to raids instead of just make more six player activities (albeit that would be greatly appreciated) is because the raids are part of the story. There's a big difference between six players in the court of Oryx and six players adventuring <--(key word) into the amazing and wonder inspiring level design of the Vault of Glass. People want to experience the story and wonder of one of Bungie's greatest accomplishments with this game.
Edit: Gettin a lot of senseless hate for this thread. So I'll just say - BRING IT! I'll take you all on!!!!
Edit: This is not to dumb down normal and hard versions of the raids. Its an easy(er) version that can allow for in game matchmaking just for people who want to complete the game they paid for and experience six player combat, but dont really care for end game loot or having a "real" challenge that people cite as a reason for no matchmaking.
I have in fact accomplished every undertaking that i cared to do in this game, raid, crucible and otherwise, legitimately. So this is not for me because i cant finish what i start. This is for my friends and the community as a whole whose voices dont get heard on this forum.
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I thought that this was a good idea from the title but your ideas are stupid af
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It would be better if they just added six player patrol
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I think that's an excellent idea. That way everyone could enjoy the experience of the raid.
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Congrats you have done everything in the game that I wanna say 25% of people that play have done. Let's give him a big round of applause folks!
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Normal is enough imho.
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The old raids with Year 2 gear are like nerfed versions of raids. But I know what you mean. The raids need something akin to the level 28 Prison of Elders, only fun.
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This edit was important enough for me to post it as it's own comment. Edit: The reason they should do this to raids instead of just make more six player activities (albeit that would be greatly appreciated) is because the raids are part of the story. There's a big difference between six players in the court of Oryx and six players adventuring <--(key word) into the amazing and wonder inspiring level design of the Vault of Glass. People want to experience the story and wonder of one of Bungie's greatest accomplishments with this game.
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that's what the Easy Raid is for.
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Edited by AshKatana: 10/30/2015 4:58:46 PMActually, an easier "Training Level" match-made version would accomplish many things: It would get players who normally would never raid used to the raid mechanics, so that if/when faced with a real raid, they'd have a better understanding of what was required, and why there were minimum requirements. It would expose players to some of the fun things generally found in raids that aren't available elsewhere, and let them get used to the coordination required by a 6-man team. It would allow players to practice certain mechanics without getting hazed badly by elites who are raiding for loot and don't want to waste any time getting "the job" done. This game could benefit from a Training Level for PVP as well - let people learn the maps, learn the strategies., and possibly reduce the ridiculous number of weapon nerfs that so adversely affect PvE. PS. You might have better responses if instead of "Nerfed" Raid, you used "Training-Level" Raid.
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I think they just need more 6 man events that are different than raids. Higher version of strike missions, 6 man patrols, etc
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Do like a VR Training Simulator of various sections for each Raid. Not 100% the same experience, but it gives you the ability to more or less solo each individual challenge to at least get the hang of it on your own.
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I agree. As long as it's for lesser loot, could serve as a stepping stone for people to get to the real raid. Don't understand why people are against it.
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I can endorse your idea except for the nightfall tier rewards. If they are going to make an easy mode that's easier than normal then the rewards need to be less than what you get in normal. So in Kings fall that would equate to 290 drops.
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Spring casual or Fall casual?
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For me. I'd love to jump in with no enemies so I can practice jumping puzzles and movement strategies in each area. I have no group to play with and while I believe I'm a good destiny player I wouldn't want to suck at an "easy" section and have a raid group get frustrated with me for not knowing how to complete an area. Most recruitment posts now say "must have experience" but I can't get any experience because I have no one to practice with and nowhere to practice.
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Its called normal mode
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Only if you don't get rewarded for this, beyond experience. Otherwise, i dont feel inclined to endorse your idea.
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No just stop this the ad needs to die immediately
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Just get good !! Holy shit you killed your game bungie with the T for teen rating .. The raids are easy as hell and a joke compared to any hard difficult game .. Play dark souls and get owned .. You guys just aren't good at video games but you want the loot that says you are .. Just stop sucking !! Practice and shut up .. You are so pathetic
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Necrobumb
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Normal mode?
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Ok but you have to have a diaper / nappy relic
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Edited by The Salt Is REAL: 10/31/2015 10:36:45 AMBump. Great idea here.
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Makes sense.
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I think truly all Bungie's raids should be just a strike with match making.