[quote]Don't give me the cop out excuses of that Christmas is more commercialized and makes up the majority, those explanations are complete crap, not everyone wants to celebrate a holiday with [b]Pagan[/b] roots.[/quote] Fixed that for you. Fyi, just about every current modern religion has stolen/incorporated from "fringe" or "dead" religions to make up their traditions. Many differing religions, whose members oppose or even hate the other, share traditional origins.