Final edit: This is regarding having a chance of getting no drops from hard mode. A lot of people, including myself, have gotten very frustrated with this to the point where we just don't want to play anymore.
PROOF THIS IS NOT A GLITCH AND SOMETHING WHICH IS INTENDED BY BUNGIE:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/169504792/0/0
It's not easy with a LFG team and after you spend a while fighting the boss, you get nothing or just normal mode loot. What's the point of doing it on Hard if you won't get loot anyway?
I've seen it all. Vault of Glass normal and hard, Crota's End normal and Hard, along with Prison of Elders. I've been through forever 29 but never complained about the rewards but this time I am as every other encounter gave you something every time.
Below is my original post.
Don't I just love it when I spend 20 min on a encounter only to get nothing? Last week it was nothing from sisters. This week, it was nothing from Golgoroth and I was the one who had the gaze. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to remove drops completely is a dumbass who deserves a slap to the face.
GIVE US GUARANTEED DROPS ON EVERY ENCOUNTER!
Just to clarify one thing, I'm not asking for straight 320 drops with perfect rolls. I'm just asking for drops. Now, with the variety of things you can get, you won't be done immediately. You get a drop, then it needs to be 320 and it needs desirable rolls.
For those of you saying "It has always been like this", it hasn't. I've been here since week one (Sign of Founders on my Hunter) and I'll tell you why. Before you got shards and / or energies. You could use those to upgrade your initial gear and make it more powerful. You got something out of it if you remembered correctly. Now, since you don't need ascendant materials to upgrade anymore, the equivalent could be seen as weapons or gear. You use high light stuff and upgrade your initial gear and make it more powerful.
If you do a normal raid and complete it, then do a hard raid, or just do a hard raid straight then you have the chance of getting nothing which has 310+ light until Oryx. What was the point of doing the previous encounters then if they don't guarantee you items? And it's not like this is infrequent. I didn't get anything from 3/5 encounters last week and 2/5 encounters this week. How is that fair?
Also, those of you calling me "entitled", I am entitled. I finished the activity therefore I earned the rewards. If you disagree with that then why not just remove loot completely from every activity?
Edit: 250+ replies. Let's keep going until Bungie sees this
Gecko 77 made a very good point:
[quote]Players should always feel like they are progressing. They should come out of the raid atleast one light level higher than when they started.[/quote]
triplearod also made another very good point:
[quote] The main difference in VoG and Crota's End is all weapons were exactly the same so you had to only get them once, low drop rate is fine in that instance. Armor may have different stat roll but the maximum light was always the same
Now were not only rolling against the chance it drops, but its Atk/Def values, and its perks. Im fine with the variance as it makes the raid more replayable, but something should drop even if it is a 310 hallowed pieces of gear. Maybe that gear will have stats & perks I like and is worth infusing up.[/quote]
Edit: RIP my notifications tbh
Edit: 500+ replies
Edit 750+ replies. When we get to 1000, I'll edit this to #Feedback so this has a more likely chance of getting noticed.
Edit: 1000+ replies. Will edit this into #Feedback soon
Edit 1500+ replies. Bungie, we're waiting on you
Edit 1750+ replies. Two updates later and no mention of this in any update... Really Bungie?
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yea a lot of good points here... I do find it shocking how many times multiple members of the fireteam has gotten a big fat nothing on 2 big bosses. ( myself a few times ) I even had a Hard Mode Oryx kill with nothing dropped. I about broke a controller....
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Edited by Mazerek: 10/29/2015 7:15:58 AMSigned. As a sidenote, the ridiculous amount of work you have to go through to get Touch of Malice. I understand its an exotic but when you have to spend hours searching for black wax idols its redundant lunacy.
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Yes👏🏼
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I got on all of my 3 characters only asendent shard and energy from vog year 1 so shut up
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Edited by Crewchief0206: 10/29/2015 6:42:49 AMThis is bungie's bull shit way of slowing down people getting to max light level but what bungie has failed to see (since day one) is when they do shit like this it turns people off from wanting to raid. I've done normal every week since it came out on both my hunter and Titan and my Titan is only 304. I have only ever gotten the boots, the sniper (my 1000 yard stair was higher) and the heavy machine gun. Otherwise, shards and more shards or nothing. Not even shards. And that is completely frustrating when your entire raid team gets something (armor or shards) and you don't a thing. It's honestly turned me off from raiding in this game. And now if you don't do normal before hard you might not get any up graded gear from the bosses or chests, just shards. That, is some BS and who ever thought of that needs to be shit canned from the gaming community completely because they are an idiot. I get the RNG system, I play a lot of Diablo 3 (and the first two) so RNG is nothing new to me but when you tweek the RNG to not drop gear or weapons just so you can make your players come back, you as a company have failed. I bought the taken King because I thought they were going to turn things around with all the changes they made but the major problem in the game has and always will be the RNG system they have and until that is fixed this game will die out long before their ten year plan comes close to being finished. Sorry for the long post but I hope more people sign this and bump it because bungie needs to see they are losing players and fast!
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Absolutely right! This shits lame
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I agree you should get something worthwhile, nothing worse than getting nothing
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Just tuesday I didn't get anything from the totems .. I feel your pain
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You think that is bad? I got robbed on all3 chars. Got 304 REG yasmin, 300 REG boots, 300 REG Shotty, 300 shell, REG 306 Fusion rifle and a 307 REG bond on -blam!ng HARD mode not doing normal, not to mention oryx taking 40 shards and giving me a 307 reg chest piece and 300 cloak. I put time into thiss tupid raid only to get upset dissapointed and -blam!ng robbed.
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dont you know Moldering shards are drops motherf[b]u[/b]cker? Entitled prick. Just kidding, of course.
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You are stuck in nostaligia or are dilusioned. It is true that the game has always been cruel with drops. But yes Kings Fall is really annoying. I did my first clear of the week yesterday and got a ghost shell below what I have, a pair of 310 harrowed gloves which is basically a -blam!- you and can now be considered "nothing" IMO.I did however get a 312 bond so there's an upgrade!
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Edited by The 7th fall: 10/29/2015 7:30:02 AMSigned, seen people in my designated raid groups gets the shards alone or even nothing at all from normal and hard mode checkpoints... Bungie has really gotta get through their heads that this is now way to get players to come back for more, this is just turning people off from raiding in general, and in turn making people go to other games that guarantee better rewards than this bullcrap.
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Edited by Henry The Hydra: 10/29/2015 7:29:26 AMI never knew the item 'nothing' was in KF loot drop! That something new bungie! Very nice.
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Signed.
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Sounds like u still got something. No one has ever been guarenteed a drop at any point in any raid
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Go back next week and do normal first. Ur guarentee a drop on hard
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Signed.