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Do you understand what pay to win is?
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  • [quote]Do you understand what pay to win is?[/quote]It's what comes after micro transactions for vanity items and then consumables.

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  • So not what's happening right now then?

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  • I think you are the one who does not understand.

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  • Can you explain to me how a dance move or a mask is now giving people with lots a money an advantage over anyone?

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  • OHHHH NOOOOO!!! CONSUMABLES THAT I CAN BUY FOR 5 WEAPON PARTS ARE BEING SOLD FOR $10!!!!!!!!! THE WOOOORLD IS OVERRRR EVERYONE IS GOING TO BUYYY THEIR WAYY TO WINN NOW!!!

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  • Hey, thanks for typing in all caps, Smoggy. If the blessed one feels the need to shout it, it must be important. Disappointing, I expected something more entertaining from you. Though I guess I'm not surprised since someone else's post is what made you "famous".

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  • Edited by SmoggyPluto: 10/27/2015 12:21:59 AM
    Edit: I was being a dick lol

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  • Hey Smoggy, did you forget your bitchy little comment before typing all that? Or does typing bitchy little comments not count as long as it's defending Destiny? Don't be a condescending tool right after doing what you are looking down on someone for doing. Kthnx.

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  • Edited by SmoggyPluto: 10/27/2015 12:21:41 AM
    Also, my point is that there are bigger problems on the world. People are gonna spend money on whatever they wanna spend it on and they've earned the right to do so since they earned that money. But I think that this is bungies game and they built it, so we shouldn't be complaining at them every second we can. P.S. Sorry if I got a little angry haha. I stepped a bit over line lol and I apologize for that

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  • Yes, the world is full of problems. But that isn't really the point of this. I paid a decent amount of money on this game, and microtransactions are something that would have made me think twice about that had they been there all along. I don't think it's wrong to voice my disdain for a products evolution when have invested money and a [i]lot[/i] of time into it. Sure, it might be nothing but crappy consumables and cosmetics. I don't like that, but whatever. But they [i]already[/i] lied about Tess's store selling only cosmetics and I think it is reasonable to be suspicious. Sorry I went off the handle there, too. No hard feelings.

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  • Ya seriously, I'm sorry lol. On this forum everyone picks a side and sometimes you'll say whatever stupid shit you can think of N order to prove the other side wrong haha. I completely get why you said it and I think it's a perfectly fine thing to do. After all your just expressing your opinion. Sorry I got pulled into the bullying haha. Glad we worked it out :-)

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  • Yes, these forums love to bring out the worst in people.

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  • So true haha. I wonder if all forums are like this or just this one. Tbh this is the first forum I've been apart of

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  • They pretty much all are unless you go to a smaller community like Runescapes.

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  • Hahahaha winning.

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  • [quote]People bashing on OP, a couple of things: 1. Regarding the "slippery slope": Now a lot the folks calling OP stupid and retarded and dozens of other immature crap, are almost certainly the same people arguing just a few weeks ago "Silver is just for cosmetics, quit being a tinfoil hat paranoid loser!" Well it's been maybe 2 weeks (has it even been 2 weeks yet??), and we've gone from cosmetics to consumables... THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE. It's already happened. The slopes done slipped. In under a month we've gone from being able to buy *only* cosmetics with real world money to buying cosmetics AND consumables that provide a tangible in-game advantage (REGARDLESS of how minimal that advantage is). So continuing to bash on the OP for making the slippery slope argument in INVALID, as the slippery slope has already occurred. 2. For the multitudes arguing "But those items are already available in game for free!" You need to recognize, that you are literally making the OP's point. The word is dumb, but this IS the pay-to-win model. The idea is, there are things that can be acquired in the game by playing the game, and there is also a way to skip the in-game process and immediately purchase those things with real world cash. Whether these consumables actually let you "win" or not irrelevant, because that's a nonsense term and there's no prescription for what pay-to-win is, simply a philosophy... the point is that you can now subvert in-game processes by simply spending cash.. ..So to make the fallacy of your arguments here really clear, to say that "Those items are already available in-game from drops or the gunsmith," is equivalent to saying in this hypothetical: "Well sure you can buy a Sleeper Simulant for silver, but it's literally the exact same gun I could get by completing the quest." Again, I'm not ignorant, I realize these Halloween items are meaningless... the point is that slippery slope, that has now been proven within literally a matter of days, and the principal behind micro-transactions. Of course we don't know where they will go next with this... maybe this is the very last item you'll ever see for sale with silver other than emotes... but after already ramping up from cosmetics to consumables in days, it seems unlikely this is the last we'll see of Eververse. So while you all blindly accept this practice, or worse, chastise the OP for being critical of it... you are in fact being the *retards, idiots, fgts* or whatever other immature, inflammatory bullshit you all spew at people for sharing their opinions.[/quote]

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  • Anything actually to say or are you just going to post some copy and paste bullshit I didn't bother to read

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  • And now you know everything I said is correct because SmoggyPluto liked my post

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  • Why comment if you didn't read and if you did read you would all east see the other persons point but as like most people commenting on this post. I assumed you can't read words with more then one syllable.

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  • If someone genuinely replies to me i'll read it but 3 words into what you had pasted I could tell you didn't write it and I'm not going to pay attention to someone who just users other peoples work to try and make themselves look good

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  • Seriously. Concerned about a perk you can get on ANY rare cloak. OMG OMG that's such an advantage. These threads are silly

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  • I think it's safe to say they don't.

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  • This

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  • Indeed

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  • Indeed.

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