it's still a step in the fight! Those knights can still kill YOU while you're in the orb. It's a cheese in your opinion because it's not the one way you've done it. You're not looking at it from a big picture scale. This was a brilliant strategy to whoever discovered it. So finding a ledge on Crota as a safer place to stand is NOT a cheese but finding a safer place to stand in Kings Fall up above IS a cheese. You're contradicting yourself here, I'm sorry.