The traveler is a giant floating white sphere, and, at the risk of sounding like a tumblr justice warrior, YOU GIVE IT A GENDER?! It's like calling a star a he, or earth a she. Traveler doesn't have a vag(to our knowledge) or a phallus. Therefor the Traveler is an 'it'.

The lorists believe alpha lupi (who is a she ) was the traveler. Just as oryx was a she that them turned a king as a he I'm not being a gender warrior I'm basing it off what I've been able to gather

Also, I was saying I was at the risk of sounding like a gender warrior, you're fine.

[quote]Even if it was true that we found the traveler, it still used us to fight its enemy by advancing us farther than its other touched species Whether Rasputin decided to stop the traveler from running or it confused the traveler's intentions the traveler is selfish at the core. This is proof by her dying notice to give us ghosts that resurrect us from the dead to continue her fight. She brought the darkness upon us whether intentional or not and to some that would Make her evil[/quote] Even if it was true that we found the traveler?... Dafuq? You must be new here. Go watch the intro to the vanilla game. Or the alpha trailer... And it didnt try to use is to fight its enemy. There was no enemy at first. We found it, had a golden age of technological advances, and then the darkness crept up, cabal attacked, fallen swooped in and vex came out of the underground. And the traveler isnt dead. Its on backup power till the guardians either kill the darkness or find a way to bring the light back to it. If people want to claim its evil, thats their choice. But half of them are only voicing that opinin because the see half assed youtube videos using outdated material and calling it factual. YES THE TRAVELER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EVIL. YES THE BLACK GARDEN WAS ORIGINALLY ROUND AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INSIDE THE TRAVELER. Was. WAS.[b][i][u]WAS[/u][/i][/b]. not IS.

I was addressing the point of the posters rebuttal Stop half ass reading and them replying We came in contact with the traveler on mars She blessed us but you cannot deny the fact that she knew that the darkness would chase her AND anything she touched.

Half assed reading? I QUOTED you! And then responded to each part. Stop being so uppity, youre trying too hard to prove your point. Which is ludicrous anyway since througout the entire story the traveler has been inanimate. Meaning you cant judge its actions. "It knew bad things will follow it" It wouldve happened eventually! Oh hey lets just forget about the entirety of the golden age and all the good this thing did because some CRAZY OUTSIDE ENTITY chose to look thru the solar system for it. Why are you so dead set on making it out to be evil?

why are you so dead set on making it good?

It gave humanity a golden age. I didnt say anything past that about it being good. It was supposed to be evil. They reworked it and literally changed EVERYTHING and then came flat out and said it was good when people starting making youtube videos like the one op referenced. Idk if its good or bad. Its not alive/awake yet. I have no way to tell. Nobody does.

You do know that even if it didn't advance us further than other species we would have been obliterated like those other species ?

Actually Thats subjective. The darkness swallows anything in its pursuit of the traveler. The warminds cannot fully destroy the existence of the dark. But if we never found the traveler, wed have never lost all of the warminds. So when crota came to reclaim his right to appease his father who's to say the warminds wouldn't have protected us. Etc

But the warminds were a product of the golden age, of the travelers advancement. No traveler=no warminds