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originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
Edited by A Rising Wind:
10/22/2015 2:29:20 PM
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It wasn't emotional attachment to crota that brought oryx, you are using our human concept of love. Hive religion is extreme survival of the fittest, the best killer wins. Not only do they seek to survive, they actively seek out to eliminate the weak, and they actively seek out the strong to test their own strength against (why they spend 20,000 yrs killing each other, to become better killers). Oryx tossed crota to the vex and could have cared less if he died. He only "loved" crota once crota became an excellent killer. So when we killed crota, we elevated ourselves up the chain of command of killers. We were better killers than crota (because we defeated crota), and thus we were sought out as challengers. Last few verses of the book of sorrows.
Oryx sought us out because we were good killers. Either oryx would become a better killer by defeating us, or oryx would lose and we would rightfully replace oryx as the superior killers. Which in a weird way, satisfies oryx desires. Whether him or someone else, he wants the best killer to win.
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The Book of Sorrows is clear that they have familial attachments even if their concept of love, joy, etc are warped. They even had compassion/guilt originally in their whole mass slaughter thing. I mean he straight up says he should have some kids so he can both love and kill them. And Oryx straight up screams "Vengeance for Crota!" and "I will have vengeance!" at you in game. Everything in the TTK story points to Oryx having a personal beef with you over the death of Crota. Near every NPC says it at least once. All the marketing says it. The trailers say it. The commercials say it. Bungie said it. Its pretty silly to say otherwise. -.-
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Also to add on to the end there but in the books of sorrow it says we don't replace Oryx at all and are making a grave mistake.
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You're both right and wrong; Oryx still loves Crota in a familial capacity. Although they strive for strength, and value that in an extreme "survival of the fittest" model, the Book of Sorrows also indicates that -- despite all the want for killing each other -- they still love each other and have respect for anyone (even family) who can best them. So I would say you are right, but he also has that attachment to Crota that would spur him even more to attack the our system.
