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Edited by OPC P1nc: 10/22/2015 10:57:05 AM
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Let me educate you on good and evil ... Good and Evil are nothing but subjective value opinions from the perspective on an individual ego or group ! There is no objective Evil or Good ! So your statements on good and evil hold no ground ! To the Hive we are EVIL... To the Guardians ... the Hive are Evil Etc, etc, etc.. So one thing can be both good and evil depending on the perspective. Furthermore the Travellers Utopia might be OUR HELL ... So you still dont know shit ! I hope this enlightens you a bit !
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  • What you have said makes some sense until you realise evil isn't a universal perspective. It's a construct of the human psyche and imposing this idea onto ants or any other none human entity is nothing more than a delusion. Good and evil are nothing more than human morality thresholds at the extreme ends of a spectrum.

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  • Edited by OPC P1nc: 10/22/2015 12:41:49 PM
    ;-) I fully agree ! I try to explain why Evil and Good dont exist through these examples ... its crazy to think ants think we are evil...they probably dont have such a concept (also because they probably lack Ego ) Thanks !

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  • But there is evil based on a general morality concept. For instance, causing a genocide is evil. Killing a helpless child is evil.... Etc Sometimes it isn't just perspective, it is the acts of one that create their intention to be evil

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  • No it isnt ! From the universal perspective of all Evil and Good do NOT EXIST Bacon/Shakespear understood this when he stated TO BE OR NOT BE ...THAT IS THE QUESTION ! When a comet hits pluto is that good or evil ??? Neither cause from our perspective it has no consequence... on universal perspective its just the enevitable constant state of change ... No killing a child is not evil per sé ... say you can see in time...and you kill hitler be4 he kills millions...is it evil or good ??? Depends on your perspective ! Same goes for anything... I understand its difficult to grasp... From human perspective such things you name are evil... of course...but not from a universal perspective ... if you step on an ant is that good or evil ???? Depends on your intention right ... FROM YOUR perspective ...from the ants perspective its always evil ... he gets crushed... At least that is my view on it...and that of most of the philosophers I read ...

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  • I see your point but I certainly think there is evil out there in our present day. Evil is the absence of humanity and moral compass....

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  • I agree from the human perspective ...but not from the Universal ... In the Universal perspective there is no Moral ... its survival of the fittest ... "God" doesnt favor life forms ... I hate to use the term "God" since its most controversial...when I say "God" I simply mean the universal all ... (in my theory God = Everything + Nothing) Evil on a human perspective might be : [quote]"Evil is the absence of humanity and moral compass...."[/quote] However that cant be maintained for the universal good or evil...since the universe could do just find without humanity ... so that is impossible to maintain ...and neither are we the pinnacle of life...we are just another life from that exists and will seize to exist ... like dinosaurs etc... But again... on a human perspective I agree with you fully ! And you dont know how much your answer delights me !

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