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10/22/2015 7:50:53 AM
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[quote]I'm going to end this with a brief discussion about "good" and "evil". They are not concrete standpoints: they depend on who's talking. The Traveler is good because it brought us a Golden Age, nurture our growth, and helped us fight the Darkness. The Darkness is evil because it brought the Hive and tried to exterminate us. To the Hive, the Traveler is the evil one, and the Darkness is the good one. Additionally, let's talk about their purposes. The Traveler wants a utopia universe with no wars or dictators; a universe built on peace and prosperity. The Darkness wants a universe built on ruthlessness. In the Darkness's universe, something is only worthy of existence if it cannot be defeated. If you can be defeated, you should not exist.[/quote] This is the important bit. This is where we see the division between those who subscribe to theories of absolute good and evil and those who understand that without perspective, morality is meaningless. Effectively we cannot EVER claim that an alien is "evil" because we can never share their perspective on life. Their culture and perspective are LITERALLY alien to us. An alien may be our enemy. It may be that an alien race has to be taken on in war because their actions will lead to our destruction otherwise - but this does not make them "evil". Consider Ender's Buggers. They were simply trying to communicate with us, they thought that we would understand. They were just saying hello when they carved through whole colony populations like butchers... surprisingly though, not evil.
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  • I'm glad someone else read/saw the book/movie

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  • I don't think anyone who saw the movie would have any comprehension of the plot of Ender's Game. I've read a fair few of the books in the series - I actually came at it from Speaker for the Dead which I found in a charity shop as a teenager. It's a fairly common sci fi theme though.

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  • True, but the execution was a cut Above the rest, at least from my nostalgic recollection.

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  • I found myself cringing too often through the film - I understood why they cut it the way they did, but some of the best parts of the story are missing or glossed over. It's a pretty extreme story, and they didn't quite pull it off (from a fanboy perspective)

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  • Definetly, they barely recognized the most important details of the ending, probably so people didn't expect a sequel

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  • The sequel would be easier to make as there are far less very young characters to deal with. Only the difficulties of things like an AI that only one character can hear, alien hive mind communication, and bizarre alien reproductive systems...

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  • They'll put the Hollywood twist on it I'm sure but if it ever does surface we can only be hopeful.

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  • I agree wholeheartedly. It's obvious that the Book of Sorrows is written to help us understand the Worms/Darkness ethos and morality. If that is Good or Evil depends on your perspective.

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