{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
10/22/2015 7:30:14 AM
1
-
If you can mess with time you don't need to do either.
-
The Traveler can't mess with time. It's powers are pretty restrained. It can terraform, it can alter lifespans and intelligences, and it can see the future/past, but it can't time travel
-
Well if u can see the future, you can change it. I think that qualifies as messing with time.
-
No, you can't. Or you create some time paradox.
-
So what is the use of seeing the future if its inevitable ... Just sit back and wait for it ... Ive never understood people believing in Faith... they truly dont ! Aks anyone who believes in Faith to cross the street in New York without looking without waiting for GREEN they WONT ... you know WHY ? Coz they deep down know that its bullshit !
-
No, they won't because nobody can know it's faith. We are Guardians. We were dead, and know "alive", fighting aliens to protect our home world. It is impossible for us to see our faith. But, if you tell somebody to cross this street, someone that know his faith... what will happen ? That's impossible to tell, either the faith this person is to live or to be killed by a car... Here, we are in some quantum physics.
-
Edited by OPC P1nc: 10/22/2015 11:27:03 AMlol ... No we are not in some quantum physics... I ask a simple question If you believe in Faith ... do you still cross the street looking left and right... Yes you do... proofing you dont believe in Faith ! If you cant comprehend that... no problem...but dont involve all kinds of other bullshit that is irrelevant to remain you are right... you are NOT ! You restate the problem so you can formulate your own solution... try and answer the question without restating it ! Then you have to acknowledge you are wrong...but that seems to be impossible for you ... I understand the problem you want to bring forward...but its not the problem I gave you ! And if no one can know its faith...then why say the traveler can see in to the future but cant alter it... that seems pretty much knowing your fairth ! Where you want to go are parralel universes ... holistic universe paradox ... I know that theory ... But its not the problem I describe here... I got annoyed because AnaholaGranola asked you a perfect clear and good question you answered the same as you do me now...you avoid the questions to not have to admit you are wrong... very narcistic and pathetic ... Just admit your wrong... you can learn from people if you are willing to ! As I am sure we can learn a lot from you as well...
-
Is that a real answer / debate ? Or a few insults ? Here, we are theorizing. You do. I do. He does. Why insult or dispite me ? I put some hypothesis. You don't agree, that's alright. But don't call me pathetic or any other words. Thanks.
-
Edited by OPC P1nc: 10/22/2015 11:55:02 AM;-) Now we are getting somehwere ! [quote]"There fore, you don't need to act like a kid, kid."[/quote] Does this answer your question ??? People act like kids coz they disagree with you... or is that just a pathetic ad hominem attack to try and convince others ??? Are you starting to realize Im playing you like a vidol ??? KID !
-
You didn't read the post I was answering, right ? Well, anyway, you seem too entitled for me. Leaving you alone spreading the "good" words and calling me out. Take it easy. We are only theorizing.
-
I agree with you both...untill I saw Ad Hominem attacks...then I thought the discussion was going out of control... And yes I call out on people I see wrong.... is that a bad thing ? I dont think your a bad person...I think your answer to him at that moment was bad... and by god Ive given plenty of those myself...and am usually thankful when people show me...
-
Right. So the traveler saw the hive we're going to terrorize the universe, but tried to kill them so they didn't. And that wasn't a paradox? Also the vex are a walking paradox. I r8 0/8 m8
-
Are you talking from the wave on the Fundament ocean ? Nothing says the Traveler did it. Even if you can see the future, all chances are that you will create the conditions of this future happening by trying to avoid it. At least, it's a theory. There fore, you don't need to act like a kid, kid.
-
Actually the book of sorrows or whatever the Grimoire from the calcified fragments has a card where the hive blame the traveler for starting the wave. Something about the traveler was helping align the planets for the wave to commence. And don't be so hurt that your theory doesn't make sense, poking holes in it isn't very childish.
-
Edited by OPC P1nc: 10/22/2015 11:11:39 AMLOL he changes direction in his answer to avoid your pimairy question and having to admit he is wrong... LOL ... dont discuss such a troll bro ! I mean Orygamer ... you ask him a great question about paradox...and he never answers it... he is a TROL !
-
Nothing proves the Traveler did it. In fact, the Hive were corrupts by Worms. Worms want to eat the Traveler. Worms unite with the Hive the same way parasites will do. Therefore, it may be possible that the Hive/Aurash observations can be biaised, due to the corruption. It can be a possibility.
-
I never said the traveler actually did it. Just that the hive believe so. Also it was suspicious that the traveler kinda lined up with the planets forming the syzygyzy so there's that
