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10/22/2015 12:28:32 AM
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I have no idea who matpat is. But the grimoire leads me to believe that the Traveler is in fact evil
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  • How? There's little to no proof

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  • I didn't say there was solid proof. I said, from what I read it seems he's at best grey. I'll find the card that leads me towards evil though and put it in a spoiler. [spoiler] [b]Legends: The Black Garden[/b] I am Pujari. These are the visions I have had of the Black Garden. The Traveler moved across the face of the iron world. It opened the earth and stitched shut the sky. It made life possible. In these things there is always symmetry. Do you understand? This is not the beginning but it is the reason. The Garden grows in both directions. It grows into tomorrow and yesterday. The red flowers bloom forever. There are gardeners now. They came into the garden in vessels of bronze and they move through the groves in rivers of thought. This is the vision I had when I leapt from the Shores of Time and let myself sink: I walked beneath the blossoms. The light came from ahead and the shadows of the flowers were words. They said things but I will not write them here. At the end of the path grew a flower in the shape of a Ghost. I reached out to pluck it and it cut me with a thorn. I bled and the blood was Light. The Ghost said to me: [b]You are a dead thing made by a dead power in the shape of the dead. All you will ever do is kill. You do not belong here. This is a place of life. [/b] The Traveler is life, I said. You are a creature of Darkness. You seek to deceive me. But I looked behind me, down the long slope where the blossoms tumbled in the warm wind and the great trees wept sap like blood or wine, and I felt doubt. When my Ghost raised me from the sea there was a thorn-cut in my left hand and it has not healed since.[/spoiler]

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  • Just because one thanatonaut glimpsed a flower in the Black Garden (which is run by the Vex, who use a form of the Hive's sword logic) that looked like a Ghost that said Guardians are killers

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  • Edited by SisterSafetyPin: 10/22/2015 1:04:57 AM
    lol. That's not the only card. It's the first card that led me to question the Traveler. There are actually quite a few grimoire cards that cast the Traveler in questionable light. I don't think it's possible to actually read all of the lore in the grimoire and not think the traveler is questionable

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  • I've read each and every existing grimoire card. Show me your proof

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  • Then we have interpreted what we read differently. I have no more proof that the traveler is evil then you do that he's not.

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  • I provided a good amount of proof to back my claim. Where's yours?

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  • I've read your "proof" It's fanfiction at best. Point to grimoire. Also we didn't get our Golden Age because the Traveler wanted to make a last stand. The Traveler remained because Rasputin wounded it and forced it to stay. What I've read in the grimoire is no where near as black and white as you're attempting to make it seem

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  • Ghost Fragment: The Traveler 2 [quote]This has been such a long chase. This will be the place you will fight. Fight and win. But do you really know why you go where you go, and where this journey is taking you? The chase leads you where you need to be, you believe. Unless...you are being pushed.[/quote] The Traveler [i]wanted[/i] to stay and fight here. It was sick and tired of being chased around the universe.

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  • Edited by SisterSafetyPin: 10/22/2015 1:30:05 AM
    Ok. Like I said, we read things and interpret differently. I don't read this and think someone who has decided either way. To me this reads as conflicting emotion. And the fact that Rasputin felt the need to injure the Traveler to force it to stay, doesn't make me think it stayed willingly. The Osiris card ends on an interesting note. Why would the truth drive a guardian mad, if the truth was as you believed it?

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