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Edited by A Tiny Hedgehog:
10/20/2015 6:20:03 AM
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So... No one going to talk about Conspiracy Theory D?
I will then. Forget about the Sunbros in PvP for now. /strikerbrosftwbtw.
Thank the heavens, shotguns have been "nerfed!!" But wait! What's this? One super easy to get shotgun is still killing at "ridiculous" range (air quotes because shotguns aren't supposed to be weak as balls when the target is 2 feet away from you. Guns don't -blam!-ing work like that, but it's a game so I digress)! It's name? The Conspiracy Theory-D. I said this before when TTK first came out. That shotgun was a stupid idea. And the recent 2.0.1 patch confirmed it.
Now, it wasn't noticeable before, due to shot package generally being better than range finder (imo). I assume majority of the people had shot package if it was the one being removed. But now that it's out of the game (until they balance it properly or w/e), every shotgun is trash (again, imo). My sidearm can outgun most of them even when they're in my face, minus the stormcallers that charge at me (seriously, -blam!- your guy's melee range, lol).
I mean, if you guys were going to take away shot package, you could've given everyone that had a shot package perk, range finder instead. But then everyone would complain that it wasn't a proper "nerf" (technically not since they took it out to rebalance it), so you gave us all "eh" perks to replace it? Ahahaha, -blam!- no. The other smarter idea would be to just take off range finder as well as shot package to even out the playing field. Now all I see are literally, CT-D. I do not see any other shotguns being used. That's how much you guys broke shotguns. Though, pulse rifles are everywhere and any hand cannon that's not TLW is hardly seen. Autos and Scouts are chilling in the right area. I digress, those are for another time.
TL:DR: CT-D is too OP because everyone is using it and is killing me at stupid range. /crycrywhinewhine.
Take the range finder perk out of the shotgun perk tree until shot packaged is fix.
Do not hand out anymore stupid weapons like range finder CT-D for quest rewards. Leave that to the RNGesus.
Off topic: I guess this shows how everyone flocks to the stronger when they themselves aren't that great.
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1 ReplyWtf is going on! Everything seems to be getting nerfed for no reason. We are still on year 2 and this game is being ruined by these kind of topics that request a nerf on any damn thing in the game!! This is Destiny and it was made to be played this way. A modern technological weapons that are way improved than our recent ones. Elemental damage, perks, subclasses etc. are the new generation of FPS combined with RPG. So if you suck at PvP then dont play PvP !
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The fact that everyone can get it from the Vanguard quest is stupid. A shotgun with THOSE perks being a quest reward is the biggest mistake ever made.
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Edited by Dano2point0: 10/23/2015 2:40:38 PMRather than focus on perk modifications they need to change the base stats on these usual suspects. High impact shotguns should not have the longest range while lower impact have the shortest range. It should be the complete opposite. Focus on base stat changes to obtain balance but leave the perks up to RNG.
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It's not that a lot of people such which some do but you know some thing is messed up in a game with a large variety of weapons when everyone has to flock to the same weapons. There is no diversity. Even games like CoD have this problem and it sucks because I like CoD games..for example in ghost the guns that rule are honey badger and vector along with the m27 lmg which takes 0 skill to use whatsoever
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3 RepliesThey should have removed range finder when they got rid of shot package. Pretty pointless to remove one without the other.
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Anyone can get this shotty
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Edited by Kone19ps: 10/20/2015 8:19:16 PMRecord and watch your matches. Measure the distances and account for lacking health or team shooting then get back to me with numbers. So many people crying about this. I get hate messages all the time when I'm right in their chest or shooting twice. Please I urge you review your deaths don't just come here right away complaining
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1 ReplyBungie: "To make sure that no shotguns have too much range, we will make the Felwinter's Sniper obsolete in year 1. But to keep the trend going, we will bring the matador 64, party crasher +1, and the newest addition: the conspiracy theory d. This shotgun will have increased range, to make everyone happy, plus we will hand one out at 300 attack for everyone to enjoy!"
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1 ReplyIt can stop hammer.... Just saying....
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5 RepliesStop playing PvP. Simple.
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1 ReplyThe conspiracy theory D needs a damage impact and range buff so it can compete with all the other snipers.
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1 ReplyI'm a shotty user, not a proud one, but a user nonetheless. I simply use a shotty because I really haven't any alternatives. Shotties will always seem overpowered in this game because the maps are disgustingly small. These call of duty sized maps suck and should be larger to allow for sniping to come more into play. As for the fusion rifles? They suck and need to be buffed again soon. Nobody uses them.
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I wont cuz i have one with 300 light
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Hate that gun
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Edited by Speck311: 10/20/2015 10:09:12 AMThey made noobie cannons even worse by making the maps so cramped with obstacles like trees etc everywhere....it's damned near impossible to use a primary as a primary anymore. I personally think this game is being designed to cater to dunce players. There is so much BS piling up more and more you can tell. They want everyone to have a 1.0 ratio apparently. Or they will keep forcing more buttonslapping gameplay and make you either trade kills like a noob or quit.
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I was one of the first people to point out the flaw of leaving shotguns with rangefinder.
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Raise your hand if you didn't see this coming as soon as conspiracy was released.
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-blam!-ing hate crucible. I can handle being killed by pulse rifles and Titan Supers, and anything else for that matter but these shotguns are ridiculous. Nothing has changed. I've been one shot killed by this shotgun so many times from so far away.
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Bump, Bungie this hun is a huge problem in pvp. Literarily everyone is using it. Smh.
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At least with the Chaperone you need skill to get a one shot kill, but it is all ruined when a noob just slides round the corner and one shots you to the body. That takes no skill. With the Chaperone being an exotic, you would of thought sacrificing a primary exotic for a secondary exotic, it would be far superior to everybody else's legendary secondary slot (shotguns).
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Yeah nerfing shotguns only hurt the variety of shotguns. Now it's this "No Child Left Behind" shotgun bullshit where everyone is using the same damn thing. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with nerfing shotguns but -blam!-ing hell they didn't do enough. Should have removed rangefinder as well. Tired of this no-skill-required, run straight at the enemy like Rambo, bullshit shotgun meta.
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ITS -blam!-ING OP TO SHIT AND BACK all that needs be said here I think....... Cue the die hard shotty gimps
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Rangefinder is only 5% boost to range - it makes hardly any difference. Even without it, Conspiracy Theory-D would be a beast.
