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10/19/2015 9:35:56 PM
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Ar15 fitted to 9mm is no longer a rifle; Thats a subcompact (Its a pistol round) You should get a gun that shoots real bullets; not whimp ones no offense but yea
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  • It's a pistol caliber carbine and therefore a rifle. - Der

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 10/20/2015 4:50:16 PM
    Nope; A rifle that shoots a pistol round in semi auto or full auto mode is a subcompact Thats DOD classification Exceptions being; Tube loaded lever or pump action Magnum and revolver rifles Bolt action pistol rifles (either the pistol with shoulder stock or extended barrel or both) The MP5 is a subcompact machine pistol The MAC-10 is a subcompact Thompson platform that can be fired as pistol or have the included parts to convert to a rifle. The G3 or C3 is the rifle round version of the MP5 platform and the actual semi auto rifle of that platform. The P90 is a subcompact that fires the 5.7 caliber round.

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  • [b][i]A rifle[/i] [/b]that shoots a pistol round in semi auto or full auto mode is a subcompact... Lol. - Der

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  • I didnt make the terms guy the US department of defense did. I do agree its a lil oxy moronic; But its a term to denote the fact the weapon is; A pistol round weapon system A semi auto or full auto next generation gas powered piston or hydraulic driven bolt weapon system. And have that info in one word.

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  • It might be for competitions, where less recoil could be appreciated. My school's "Rifle" team uses Air Rifles,not even a .22. Disappoint. I mean, understandable...well, no, not really, they use -blam!-ing Lead Pellets. Just don't feel as right though.

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  • Ive fired a competition single loaded pistol that shot a 7.62x54r Same round as mosin nagant russian sniper rifle used by famed vasille sightsev (sorry if i butchered spelling) The pistol was 10 inches in over all length; Had less recoil than a .32 revolver btw

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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bigger the weapon, the more recoil absorbed into, yes? I also understand you can put designs into the weapon to minimalize recoil? Looked it up, granted that's a large round for a pistol. However in a pistol,I imagine less of the blast is contained in the barrel- the bullet would leave the barrel and I imagine the blast spreading out more in the area in front of the pistol, whereas it would theoritically "kick" more in a longer barreled gun as the blast would have a harder time getting into the air(it has to launch the bullet out the longer barrel), where the blast "wants" to be-path of least resistance. The .32 would be designed to a pistol's size nowadays, where a 7.62x54 would be a rifle...it'd be odd converting them, no? Then again bear in mind I'm still pretty fresh to all Gun-stuffs, so I may just have some things wrong.

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  • Yea the shorter the barrel the more of the accelerant gets burned outside of the barrel (which essentially wastes that potential energy) and since it escapes as it ignites it does not add to the recoil. It had one heck of a fireball yea. The mosin nagant has an over all length of 4-5 FEET (tho 1/3 almost is the shoulderstock) so cutting the barrel down to 10 inches eliminates a LOT of recoil; also makes the round slower and with out better ballistically treated and rifled firing system; also makes it less accurate. (The competition pistol i fired had everything you could think of to compensate for acc loss though)

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