And you clearly didn't read my complain. I am not really complaining about what drops from the raid, other than antiquated runes, but rather the level of the things that dropped. I have most likely completes more raids than you on both VOG and Crota. The reason rng is better in those two raids is because when you get the gear you know that you are going to get the max level. With oryx you can get everything at 300 which is ten levels behind max. The issue is that I am eating lower level gear over and over again when I don't need it. And yes I have gone through kings fall raids only getting shards.