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Edited by Corrick II: 10/10/2015 8:01:19 PM
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I'm not a fan of how Bungie made PvP part of the PvE experience. It's nice to think PvP is an added element and having the Crucible be part of the lore sounds great on paper but at the end of the day it's still good old fashioned multiplayer, which for some people is a miserable experience filled with "git gud" tryhards and interminable matches that aren't actually fun. Locking content behind PvP requirements is basically telling the PvE-only player "Hey, you see this cool gun? Well f-ck you, you can't have it." What follows is a bunch of d-ckheads telling you that if you really want it you should "get better", which is like telling a penguin if they wanted to fly they should lose weight and grow bigger wings. Penguins are fine the way they are. And they deserve to have Thorn too.
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  • That's like telling people who prefer PVP to the raids the same thing. "See this cool gun (ToM, vex, whatever) you have to complete the raid for it whether you want to or not

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  • There's a difference though. For a PvE player, getting gear through PvP is literally impossible. For a PvP player, running a raid is easy (as they like to brag over and over), they just don't [i]want[/i] to do it. My sympathy runs shallow.

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  • Not really. It's not literally impossible. For trials maybe because you have to actually win games. For every other PVP thing all you have to do is just play and you can eventually get it. It may take a while but it's not impossible

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  • Not for the bounties that penalize you for dying. You understand the point though. For PvE it's an actual difficulty. For PvP players it's a choice.

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  • You know what I did though. I continued to play PVP because I wanted everything and what happened, I got better the more I played. If I stayed away entirely it would be difficult probably yes. If you take it upon yourself to never try and get better then you won't get better and it will remain difficult

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  • *sigh* Always devolves to "git gud". Don't worry about it.

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  • I never said "git gud" did I. I said if you take it upon yourself to not even try then you will never get better. That's not me saying get good

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