Ok I will, but I guess scouts are more my thing. I love the hung jury, haven't tried it in pvp yet. And the vanguard one is suppose to be awesome!! But I actually really hope, they realise that thorn was the only real pain HC and will bring others back to their potential. Even when I hit enemies several times, I always die before they do!! Sometimes they even have time to turn around and they still beat me!! Puts me off pvp a bit I have to say...