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Edited by AwesomeLion:
10/9/2015 4:50:52 PM
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I don't like PvP and apparently that is NOT okay
I know its a lot of fun for some, but PvP is always maddening and frustrating for me and I avoid it whenever I can. That's why I always let out a few choice words whenever I am in the middle of a quest step to get something super awesome that I'd like to have suddenly leads into forcing me to do stuff in PvP. I might be the only one that has issues with this, but my enjoyment just drops once I see that "oh, you gotta do PvP to finish that thingy you gotten halfway on".
@Bungie - do you really need to bar everything awesome behind a PvP wall? I am doing the daily PvP stuff, do you REALLY need to force me to play something I don't like even more? FYI I can tell you that I'm not getting more fond of it the more I am playing it. There is super awesome gear locked to PvP exclusively so do you really need to have everything else awesome have to go through it as well? Chaperone, the exotic swords, the rank 5 gunsmith handcannon. I suppose I could chose not to do them naturally, but when just about every cool weapon is locked behind PvP that is really reducing my options of cool flashy stuff.
I beg you Bungie, for the future - stop locking so much behind PvP all the time - Have PvP exclusive gear like Iron Banner and such, but stop making most of the items have to go through PvP. Makes me a sad lion =C
All that negative stuff said, I have to say that I do thouroughly enjoy the changes to the Taken King and how some of the unique item quest like "Black Spindle" and "Sleeper Simulant" works. These kinda things I love, great work all around!
Edit: Wooh! Big subject. Bigger then I thought. Having hard time reading everything coming inn. One player came with the suggestion of having two ways of unlocking items. One PvE and the other PvP. Then players could pick which to go for. I like that idea. I get that PvP'ers aren't happy having to do PvE, same as I'm not happy doing PvP. I know what I like, but as some have pointed out, I can't expect Bungie to cater only to me. Thanks for a lot of feedback, I'm going to have to mull this over for a bit.
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2 RepliesI don't think you realize the higher level gear is locked behind PvE. You complainers of PvP are the most annoying people; get into a fireteam, communicate, and beat the quest.
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1 ReplyI hear you brother and have said so many times; And like the idea of two paths if I ever do an PvP again it would be to soon but like you that is the path to get certain weapons gods above I hate this mode of play.
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100% agree. Pvp is now a source for half your daily marks. I STILL don't like it. I just try new guns and don't care at all about precious kd.i could run around w year one thorn and attempt to break 1.0 but honestly I'm there for the marks. If I could boost for the sword? I'd do it in a heartbeat That's the biggest reason why I don't have an exotic void sword. Just takes me probably 10 games to get those 25 kills. That's a lot of time
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Pvp is part of the game it wouldn't be fair if everything was pve
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Edited by mja calg: 10/12/2015 3:42:25 PMI can, to some extent, see the Flip side argument that some people only play PvP and why should they have to do PvE to fill a bounty. The issue is that the PvP Quests are exceedingly repetitive and difficult to do with out a team. Try filling the Elimination bounties solo when all you face is teams of ToO people time after time. To complete some of these "Win 10 of that" or kill 30 people with grenades or kill 15 people using your Titan Bubble is very very difficult as a solo player, especially when the hosts I'm matched against appear to be on Mars. (PS: my connection is 27 mbps down, 5 mbps up, 27 ms ping time to XBL servers, 2 ms of jitter and I can accessTitanFall dedicated servers with ping times of < 45 ms - this isn't a me issue - it's a cheap BungiVision no host server issue). There are only a hand full of Quest missions in PvP that I can't complete solo and 99% of them you only have to complete once. There are guides and videos showing how to beat most of the tougher ones, there are ZERO guides showing how to win at Crucible. For the Strike quests you need to fill, you can be matched up 3 other players and off you go - you don't even have to speak to them or be there friends. The only one you really need a team of 6 for is the Raid. The last issue is that the number of lag switching teams, IP exploiters and people with terrible internet that become host make Crucible bounties a major major PITA to complete! BungiVision have done the community a great disservice by not adding dedicated Host servers for PVP play (which stops the Ip exploits, lag switching etc instantly), especially when they purposely made laggy PvP a major completion component of hitting 100% in Destiny. It won't solve everything but it goes a long way to levelling the playing field. But BungieVision's solution to get more people playing Crucible (without fixing any of these issues) is to bribe us with 10 Legendary marks per day and then force us to play it Crucible for Quests.
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8 RepliesSo why should everything be behind a PvE wall?
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I rarely play it and hate it. I like it on other games, just not this one for some reason.
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I don't like PvP, but I do it when required for quests. The Chaperone quest however for me is just plain bullshit so I'm Not bothering with it. I'm not losing any sleep over it, life goes on.
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3 RepliesIf you're being forced into PvP then Cheese your way through the bounty. Like bring two friends into rumble and murder them. How I got my exotic sword, and shotgun
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Git gud
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Its because most of PvPers in here eat Too much sodium
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I really don't like pve but if I want to use the black spindle in trials I have to play a mission which frustrates me. [spoiler]it works both ways[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyI agree with you. I don't like PvP either. I'm pretty bad at it, too.
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U r not alone. I was a defender titan, god mode in pve, cupcake in pvp. I'm maxing breaker
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I'm not fond of PVP either, but us guardians need to be versatile.
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6 RepliesI agree. Me and my PvP friends dislike the PvE players having to come in, as you can tell the difference between the PvP players and the PvE players. It's just not fair. We slaughter PvE players and it doesn't even help us become better.
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1 ReplyI'm kind of in the middle. I enjoy the pvp but for whatever reason when ever a quest is involved I don't have fun in the crucible any more.
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Anytime I finish a pvp based quest I usually just kinda chuckle, thinking some scrub will probably take forever/never finish and complain on the forums about this. Like seriously, grow some thumbs. Nuff said
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1 ReplyIt's funny how Destiny is a PvE game where all roads lead to PvP.
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6 RepliesDisclaimer: This isn't me having a dig actually something I've found Interesting and want to know more about. Questions: Why do you not like PvP? What about it do you find frustrating? Would you play if you could change some things? I know it sounds like a corporate questionnaire just found the whole PvP PvE argument very at the for front of destiny lately. I used to hate PvP personally but that was mainly lack of skill and decent internet (have since upgraded to solid green bar :) ) now with TTK PvP feels like it has a purpose rather than a augmentation personally.
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7 RepliesSleeper simulant. Pve only. Black spindle. Pve only. Touch of malice. Pve only. Most of the best gear pvp locked? wut?
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You just gotta truck through it. Because think of the PvPers who don't necessarily play PvE as much (which is admittedly weird). I'd say 70% of a questline (for an exotic weapon for example) are PvE steps while the remaining 30% is PvP. So suck it up, no one's forcing you to do anything!
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Oh no....
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8 RepliesWell things locked behind pvp things like the chaperone are only good in pvp
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4 RepliesAgree 100% Nothing in the game should have pvp requirements. Pvp should be just the competitive part of the game. Not where non pvp players are forced to go to complete stupid requirements, and ruin the pvp part of the game for others. I don't get why any regular crucible players would want people on their teams who are only in pvp in order to get some marks, or grind out some kills for an exotic sword, or class item..........it's stupid to have these requirements, and hurts the pvp game when these players are forced into it & could care less if they win or lose the matches.
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People that don't like PvP and have to play it are the ones that make it a frustrating experience for others that like it. The irony. No hate.
