Sure Gunslinger ain't the most impressive pve class (although GG with combustion can do things with trash mobs), but with the Nightstalker there is an awesome pve class available that should be in every fireteam and otherwise will be missed (at least I miss them a lot ;)
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Uh the same with defender Titans? If your arguing Titans don't have good subclasses your point has become invalid.
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No that's not what I intended to say. I intended to say Hunters have subclasses great in pve and PVP. So do warlocks.
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And so do Titans