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Edited by AYRES: 10/18/2015 4:26:49 PM
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Sunbreaker is Too Strong w/proof

Defend this please. This post will probably be ignored since there is no defence for how ridiculously OP this class is. Edit: Lots of support actually. Thank you to everyone who is capable of thinking rationally. Edit: Thank you for the discussion. Unfortunately I do not have time to talk to all of you. As for the state of the sunbreaker class I remain unconvinced that it is balanced. Edit: Was Trending briefly, lets keep it up Edit: 1400 replies not a single one has had a convincing or reasonable point to suggest that sunbreaker is balanced. Get ready for the nerf hammer titans. Edit: 2000 replies not a single valid point suggesting why this class is balanced. You lose titans enjoy the nerf.

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    • Edited by Darwin4414: 10/7/2015 8:40:42 PM
      Epic sunsinger montage is epic

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      • Anyone who says it isn't OP is in denial. It took me two games to get used to using the super against other guardians, after that, I was consistently getting 3 - 5 kills per super, and living through the whole thing (something you can't always do with Golden Gun) every time except once when I got FoHed. And for those arguing their other perks are bad - I have one simple response: my fusion grenades now completely heal me! You know, those grenades that track and stick to a person so tight that they can't even slide out of them like the other sticky grenades? Yeah, titans have them too now, and they completely heal the titans when used. Titan used to be easy mode for pve, but fair in pvp; now it's easy mode in both.

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        • Edited by Esgramor: 10/7/2015 8:36:38 PM
          Edit: lol

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          • Quick question from the video. How did he get his Sunsinger grenades to act like "mini nova bombs"? I haven't seen that before. :-/

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            • Edited by ELITHAMAIN: 10/7/2015 8:33:43 PM
              Great post. I don't main a titan (just remade mine a different race) but you bring valid points and an argument to why they are OP. The only guys bitching about it are titan mains. So don't worry about all the hate. Keep up the good work

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              • Edited by Gerbronicus: 10/7/2015 8:30:15 PM
                I main a Titan, and I guess I understand now how bladedancers felt in year one. I think that Hammer of Sol is fine, just like I thought the bladedancer's super was fine as well. I don't care one way or another if it gets nerfed a bit, I will still be just as successful of a crucible player regardless. And just as I was with everyone fuming about how "OP" bladedancer was, it just blows my mind that people get so unbelievably salty over it all. Good lord it's all people ever talk about in this forum.

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              • The fact that it takes 2 golden gun shots to kill a sun breaker with ultimate is broken. They even said in PvP notes the golden guns damage was increased to be a one shot kill. Apparently not. I have no arguments with them staying the way they are. Just increase the duration of golden up and give us the same ammount of shots as sun breaker and sunsinger. It's not op it's just fair. Personally I play all three and love all three but the biggest damage dealing classes should be equal

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              • Edited by InfernalDemise: 10/7/2015 8:18:43 PM
                ~muted~

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                • Jus git gud scurb

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                  • I bet over half of the people commenting on this thread are ignorant Titans that didn't watch the video. The video proves how much better hammer of sol is then any other subclass in the entire game. Now before I get people saying "Titans are tanks" or "Only the super is good", I'll prove them wrong. There is no reason why a subclass should exist in the game with this amount of buffs. It's literally insane. [b]If anyone calls me bitch because my highest light is on my hunter, they are straight up retarded.[/b] The Hammer of Sol super includes: Most damage reduction of any subclass in the game when using a super Insane range Highest damage of any super Highest active super period(25 seconds) Large amount of hammers able to throw [b]Health regenerates every time you get a kill[/b] Common arguments are: Q: Bladedancers get to regenerate their health on a kill too! Why can't Titans? A: [b]Because Bladedancers have to get up close and personal, allowing for the victim(s) to have a much better chance of killing the bladedancer before he kills them. Titans simply aim at a target, and the target's dead before they can even react. [/b] Q: Titans are supposed to be tanks so why can't they have the highest damage reduction? A: [b]It would be fine for Titans to have the highest damage reduction if they had to get close like Bladedancers, but then Bladedancers would be completely useless. Titans have more damage reduction than Bladedancers, AND they get to shoot at a large range. Just because Titans are supposed to be "tanks" doesn't mean they are supposed to be impossible to kill. Q: The Sunbreaker subclass sucks! Only the super is good![/b] A: [b]Yeah... yeah... keep telling yourself that. Sunbreaker gets the fusion, incendiary, and thermite grenades, all of which are excellent PvE and PvP grenades. What more could you want.. Firebolt?! Titans also get an decent melee. Overall the subclass except the super is about as good as striker.[/b] [b]Pros of Sunbreaker[/b] Better damage reduction than Bladedancers As much range as golden gun Can survive a golden gun shot Ability to regen health with each kill Proximity detonation hammers(Like seriously?) AOE damage Most damage of any super Longest active super Almost impossible to kill unless they suck MUCH, MUCH easier to use than any other super in the game Sunspots [b]Cons of Sunbreaker[/b] Has an arc instead of hitting your enemy instantly when pressing the trigger Not quite as fast as some other supers Average/mediocre subclass(NOT enough to justify the argument though) [b]Those are my arguments for why Sunbreaker is simply too strong, and why it needs to be balanced quickly. Thank you for reading.[/b]

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                      • Stfu hunter fag

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                      • I think the better comparison is the nova bomb. The hammer does explosive damage vs. single target (ignoring the combustion perk if you are standing next to someone who gets hit). You can hide around a corner and shotty camp a gunslinger for a trade at least, but you can spam hammers at a corner and kill everything around it without even getting into shotty range. There is absolutely no advantage in any way a nova bomb has over a hammer, while a hammer has a crazy number of advantages over a nova bomb.

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                      • Edited by D1V1N1TY: 10/7/2015 8:07:29 PM
                        LOL ... who cares what some guy with a YT video thinks? He's just a guy with a video that you idolize for what? Who even has the time to watch/ subscribes to this crap?

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                        • QQ stfu

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                        • I missed the point of your video? muted for being a cock muncher

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                          • Don't make me throw a hammer at you ᕙ(▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿) ᕗ

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                          • The sun breaker super is more like the blade dancer. Why compare it to golden gun? It makes no sense.

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                            • "Get rekt Sunbreakers" OP we can see how hurt your butt is from over here.

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                              • [spoiler]OP is just a lowly salt miner and is now very rich. He thanks you all for you contribution.[/spoiler]

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                              • Oh look, another thread about some youtuber/streamer that says Sunbreaker is OP. Because their opinion means SO MUCH MORE than anyone elses /sarcasm Some cheese with your WHINE, OP?

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                                • This is how you deal with a Sunbreaker.

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                                  • This crap again

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                                  • Ok I'll defend it, in the defense of the super everyone who saw the guy with HoS immediately froze and did nothing or back pedaled slowly which was an easy kill, the others who ran did the mistake of going into a narrow hallway or tight space which is where HoS excels. So the "SUPER" not Sunbreaker itself is not as OP that proof in the video was simply an average player who played against noobs who freeze when they see a HoS or just make the terrible decision of letting themselves get cornered and killed.

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                                    • Lol. Datto's opinion is invalid just like every destiny YouTuber

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