Most of the time i'm outgunning people with ordinary shotguns, the perks are great because when you get one kill it makes it drastically easier to get the next in that time frame, the only times i'm ever beat is from range or by thw occasional shotgun but all in all it's a really good gun for crucible, fire rates nice, range is nice, the only beef I ever see people have with it is you need a headshot but thw fire rate is nice, you can afford to make a mistake unlike most of the slow rate of fire shotguns