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10/2/2015 12:58:06 AM
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Sunbreaker's super is OP because every single perk the subclass has revolved around it. They get no passive abilities nor combat abilities outside of their super. The class itself revolves around the super itself where as other classes do not.
Yes it takes two golden gun shots, however you can fire them in rapid succession, kill the sunbreaker, dodge the hammer and bam. You have 1-2 more shots and deprived the Titan of his super which takes a whole minute longer than yours to recharge.
Nova Bomb kills it. Tether takes it away. Striker Kills it. Machine Guns Melt it. Two quick sniper shots kill it. It's by no means invincible and it is better than other mobile supers strictly due to the fact the super is pretty much all the class has too it's name. Before anyone criticizes me because I main a Titan, I main Striker and Defender, not sunbreaker.
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It's an amazing class with fantastic perks and grenades. Not to mention you can regenerate health easier than any other class too.
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Fantastic perks that only affect the super.
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Any melee or grenade has burning, and if you get a kill--regen health. Start with 1HKO sticky nades. Incendiary grenades are insanely devastating too. Immediate melee recharge on kill. Enemies are weaker when burned by any ability Can recharge grenades and melee faster than other classes with full super. The class is great, just as good as any other. And the super is overpowered. That's the truth of it. I know people like to shout how the super is the only good thing about the class, but thats a pathetic and largely irrelevant argument when talking about supers, and regardless its untrue.
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Finally someone else who isn't in special needs classes
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... It's the only mobile super that can tank a gg shot
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Yes it can, but tell me anything special it can do without the use of it's super. Can we shoulder charge? Stack passive abilities? Gain over shields on a simple melee? Outside of it's super, it's severely underpowered compared to all other classes. You pop it once every 4:20 and throw 7 hammers with forge master on. You're lucky to pop it 2 times in a crucible match (depending on game type) and yet it can be shut down through coordination, nova bomb, striker, GG, and more. Yes, the super is strong, but the class as a whole is [i]weak[/i] which is why I don't play it. I am crippled severely outside of my super.
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The class is great. Comparable to most others. Look at voidwalker, for example. Its basically got all the advantages of that class, and more. The only thing that's different is titans don't get blink. But the two 1HKO grenades, burning damage, instant recharge melee, and incredible regen makes the class astounding. On top of that, its super is overpowered.
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Again - 15 hp will make it fair
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Lowering the hp by 15 won't matter at all when people can just stack armor that gives them a higher armor eating when using a solar based subclass. They'll still tank a Golden Gun shot. It'll still take 2 to kill. It's fair enough as is considering the subclass as a whole is absolute crap without it's super. (Pvp wise at least, that melee is good against certain Majors and ultras)
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I don't think armor works like that ...
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It works pretty well for me. I don't know what percentage it is, but it's actually more significant than it seems.
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In crucible?
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Yeah. I was wearing my armor that granted bonus armor/resistance when using a arc based subclass and I tanked a golden gun shot to the face. Sure I was really low, but I did it. Maybe golden gun needs a buff I've always thought so. The no damage resistance always bothered me. Maybe cut the animation time. I don't know. Gunslinger is my fav hunter class and I feel the mobile super for it is kinda weaker than others.
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All Titans have in Sunbreaker is their super. No perks, crappy grenades, etc. EVERYTHING is spec'd for the super, making it good. Hunters have chain of woe, trance, blink, shadestep, etc, and to put the cherry on top, they have the best exotics. Titans haven't had anything good since Helm of Saint-14, in the vanilla game.
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Ruin wings?
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Situational. Also irrelevant now because nobody needs heavy ammo
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It increases the drop rate for all ammo and increases amount of ammo picked up per drop. It's also good for people who don't use swords.
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It's only heavy. Not all types. Heavy is useless in the raid and almost everything now
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Well I don't know a better exotic for titans.
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Like I said, helm of Saint 14 is the only good option right now. Maybe the new boots
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Fúck St 14. I prefer sunbreaker and striker. I also like using my primary weapon at its intended distance. St 14 confides defenders to their bubbles, and that doesn't fit my playstyle. Ruin wings gives me more heavy, which is more DPS at range which is what I want as a Titan.
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We'll have fun not supporting your team. Bubbles and tethers are the best supers for PvE, so why would you even use Sunbreaker or striker. Sunbreaker is good for Golgoroth and that's it.
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Defender is a support and provides a place of sanctuary from the enemies and gives people a shelter to regen health. Striker is an offensive class that has zoning capabilities and a high damage with a good radius that destroys mobs (more PvP.) Sunbreaker is a generally weaker class unless they have their super. The sunbreaker is a very high damage roaming super that is super focused and not any passive abilities. The problem with an all support team is that there is no offensive abilities. A fireteam needs to cover all bases, offensive, defensive, support. A team doesn't focus on all one element, a team comprises of people all specialised in different focuses.
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Edited by MrWolfla: 10/2/2015 8:29:17 PMThe thing is, there aren't any classes that focus on damage besides GG. You don't need classes that focus damage.
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Bull crap, sunbreaker is a DPS based class. Stormcaller is good at trash mob disposal. Nightstalker is a good support class and increases damage output of the others. Sunbreaker is the Titan DPS, Nova/stormcaller is the warlock DPS and GG is the hunter DPS. All classes have a high damage output subclass.
