1: They can move faster than Titans. 2: Not every Titan knows how to skate. 3: Hammer of Sol doesn't have an aim assist of two million. 4: GG has no travel time. :5 Hammer needs to be arched up, and aimed unless you're in its face(which is your fault if you die.) 6: GG Doesn't waste energy on shot, while the hammer does, count that whilst moving slow and trying to find people, you have less time than GG to get kills. 7: Hunters get their super faster. 8: With combustion it's very easy to get more than four kills. Yet Hunters always find a new thing to complain about, like usual.

Titan skating is a thing bru skilled players can use it. The supers are both 15 seconds .. The more kills you get the faster your super recharges. Your hammer does have tracking ... Throw it at an arc? Bru I get precious hits with a throwing knife that doesn't have tracking and are we forgetting the hammers have proximity detonation .. Give me 7 throwing knives at once and watch me destroy the crucible... And again you have over double the Health of a gg and you can regain it on kill. You can give yourself a flame shield and after popping your super you are the only class with a mobile super that can eat a gg bullet or ldr shot to the face... You are the fastest class with highest range and dps with no draw backs just like how you can miss a hammer a gg can miss a shot. I don't see your point..

Honestly got tired of the complaint threads so I decided to take 2 friends into rumble to test. I first tested the defense both with max armor and with the extra armor you can get with a certain chest piece when using a solar based subclass. results: I had 2 snipers used. stillpeircer and black spindle. still has impact of 31 which covers 1000 yard stare and LDR. black spindle has 37 which covers black hammer and eferdeets spear. the 004 sniper was not used but has an impact of 34. snipers were used at point blank so no damage drop off was present. With max armor the 31 impact snipers leave me with a tiny sliver of health. which means the 34 impact sniper and 37 impact snipers will one shot me. With additional armor the 37 sniper one shot me. which means 3 snipers can currently one shot headshot the sunbreaker when they have the most armor possible. the 34 might be able to do it. and any sniper with a damage proc including the 31 snipers will be able to one shot. Next I tested golden gun. The result was the same both times. Point blank a golden gun will not one shot the sunbreaker. but they both leave you with a sliver of health. so if the sunbreaker has literally taken any damage at all and gets hit by golden gun they will die. It's important to note that you have to fully spec into armor in order to live from golden gun. If you don't take max armor golden gun will one shot you. Lastly I tested the damage of the hammer on direct impacts. To confirm my idea that it has the same damage model of arc blade swipes. When running max armor on blade dancer with the extra armor you take 2 hammers to kill. you're left with half of your red health bar. then I tested it against a person with max armor on storm trance but no extra armor and got the same result. to me this means it's got the same damage of the arc blade melee. If hammer of sol does any extra damage at all its so small that it's not going to matter in 90% of situations. Conclusion: the sunbreaker mid super naturally has a slight armor advantage. and it's honestly so slight it doesn't matter in my opinion. you have potentially 4 snipers with out any special perk roll that can one shot head shot. and if you are using golden gun all you have to do is hit them with anything like a nade or knife and then golden gun and they are dead. I understand people don't like that the sunbreaker can even survive it at all. However they are the tank class and all titan sub classes can tank a golden gun. so it's consistent. and hammer of sol has average damage. needing 2 hammers to kill a majority of people mid super. of course if the target has low armor it's a one hit. But everyone is always telling me max armor is the way to go in crucible. so if you aren't running it you willingly accept the concequences. end of story. I didn't test all sub classes on damage with the hammer because the 2 I did test with different situations yielded the same results. Though if someone proves me wrong with footage and explains the situation i'll retract my statement. I also didn't test sword swings or rockets. Simply because anyone mid super (bar golden gun and radiance with no radiant skin) can tank 2 sword swings and if any of the subclasses (bar the same 2) spec for max armor can survive a rocket. simply put it's not a new thing. armor always protected you from rockets and now from 2 burst deaths. and the swords follow the same damage model as arc blade does. Hopefully this thread gets around and people stop complaining about how tanky they are or how stupid strong hammer damage is. EDIT: I completely forgot to mention the shotgun testing done. I managed to survive a conspiracy D headshot at point blank when I had the max armor+ the additional armor from the chest piece. with out the additional armor from the chest piece I die. So High impact shotguns will one shot sunbreakers if they are headshots 90% of the time. Made by: MongrelShadow14

How is tanking gg shots and tanking the most commonly used snipers so slight it doesn't matter especially in a game mode where fractions of a second matter bro?

If commonly used snipers are anything with a impact higher than 34 than you'll kill one, if not than that's your problem. Also, GG once again has "zero" travel time. At all. None.

You know the snipers you listed aren't popular in crucible...

They don't have to be, anything with a equal or greater impact than the Still Piercer will do the job.

Again the meta for snipers is her Ben. Ldr ect... And you think it should tank gg shots

And once again, it can be killed very easily by those said snipers, which all have a impact of 34.

Im a hunter and I dont mind the titans. I kill them easy either way :3. Sunbreakers have a hard time killing me while they are supered.

Look, a Hunter that isn't stupid! I found one guys!

See I am one of the real hunters. The ones who dont cry at a challenge.

See I like you, which is rare for me to say. I think it's fair to say 95% of Hunters whining are the kids on this game.