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Edited by SoloXYZ:
9/29/2015 7:11:24 PM
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If that's the way it should be then you shouldn't be able to dish out nearly as much damage as you do. If you can tank sniper and GG shots to the face then you should have a limit on hammer throws with reduced blast radius. Tank is defensive, not huge damage dealers.
Bladedancers are fast, but can be taken down easily if you see them coming and you have to be in the enemies face to kill them.
There is no trade off with Sunbreakers. You don't need to be fast, you have range. And you can get closer than a Bladedancer if you want to because if all the HP you have.
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One GG kills a sunbreaker btw
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The fact is 9 times outta 10 when I get kills its because people RUN right at me. I mean why would you run at someone in there super? Titans Sunbreaker class has perks mainly focused on buffing the super. Whereas most other classes have perks aimed towards non super confrontation. Without the super charged they go down just as easy as every other class and very little perks to give advantage outside of the super.
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That's partially the problem and a contributing factor to why it's so unbalanced in PvP. 90% of kills come from your guns. Your perk preferences have little to do with how well someone does in a match. Supers on the other hand have huge potential in getting significant amount of kills. Sunbreaker does it the best by far.
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Perk preference does play a part lol. Cauterize, Forgemaster and Tracking Hammers all add to the super. Also the fact that you can spec into more armor as well. Golden Gun has perks to add to it as well like range, accuracy and others, but the difference is gunslinger has perks to benefit the player outside the super like adding reload speed and stability. Sunbreaker perks are ALL focused on HoS so indeed when they finally get their super it is extraordinarily strong. Most people fail to see these facts because they are too focused on the fact that "Omg hammer op nerf bungie nerf." Yea well that's all the Sunbreaker perks do is buff the super. The only thing they get to help outta super is grenade and melee recharge.....I'd trade that for stability and reload speed among other things in a heartbeat. Let's also point out the fact that Titans have a subclass that does absolutely NO dmg in super so to take away from them the only other damage subclass is not only wrong but unbalanced. Hunters new sub class is classified as support but still does damage. Warlock sunsingers are technically support but have the potential for lots of damage as well being able to spam grenades. Titans Defender which is our support does no damage and helps team survive. Barely 2 weeks after the Sunbreaker comes out everyone already wants nerf, and who does this come from? PvP players. People fail to realize the unison between the new sub classes in Pve. Having a hunter shadowshot a group of mobs and a titan hurling hammers can produce alot of orbs for the team and the titan must depend on their armor and health to be able to take damage to clear out the mobs for the team. What about the players who don't play crucible? They suffer because people in pvp complain? People are so quick to speak of balance and unfairness. So tell me how its balanced and fair for those players who solely enjoy the pve standpoints of the game who have to be subject to the complaints of the community of the game who plays it for pvp purposes?
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Edited by SoloXYZ: 9/29/2015 8:08:52 PMI don't want to see them nerfed on PvE side don't get me wrong. Nerfing their HP won't destroy that epic SS and HoS combo, I love it too being a Nightstalker. But as they are, they are huge in all aspects of what every other class lacks in some way as far as supers go, they all need that perk to super ratio to keep them balanced.
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If Bungie tried to nerf them they would have to start altering the rest of the subs to counterbalance the change to one subclass. They made the Titans that way for a reason. I have many many clips and ss of me destroying Sunbreakers. They are not invincible and can be killed relatively easier if you don't play into their super and setup a situation that you are in control of instead of them.
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Pretty sure an HP nerf is already on the way. Luke Smith was talking about it in an interview, I guess we'll see how balancing goes after that
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The fact is 9 times outta 10 when I get kills its because people RUN right at me. I mean why would you run at someone in there super? Titans Sunbreaker class has perks mainly focused on buffing the super. Whereas most other classes have perks aimed towards non super confrontation. Without the super charged they go down just as easy as every other class and very little perks to give advantage outside of the super.
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You're right about that one lol
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Edited by ByteMyPixels: 9/29/2015 7:16:04 PMYOU CAN [b][u]NOT[/u][/b] TANK A GG SHOT OR A HIGH IMPACT SNIPER CRIT. Look at the links. If you didn't kill the titan, you need to check your connection.
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my connection is perfectly fine. sun breakers take a gg to the face and keep coming while laughing at you.
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Check the links. Full health Sunbreakers can not take a GG. You are just factually wrong.
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Yes they can, run some armor. It leaves you super absolute though
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or the person in the links was a low armor titan? multiple times i have shot sun brakers and not killed them so you can post all the videos you want
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Edited by ByteMyPixels: 9/29/2015 7:40:34 PMProve your point. You need to show proof that a SB can tank a GG. The burden of proof is with you buddy. Put up or shut up. EDIT: I have already posted links proving my point
