Bladedancers were the bane of the crucible in fall of 2014. Invisible, damage reduction, fast, and instant killing. Till people figured out Felwinter's Lie and Fist of Panic. People found the counter. Most of the time it was a powerful shotgun with 1 or 2 shots would stop a bladedancer.
Bladerdancers and Sunbreakers are the same thing. You are just seeing more sunbreakers because they are new. There are plenty of counters to the Sunbreaker. Its just going to be a while before people settle on the best.
1. Hammer of Sol is broadcasts itself clearly- consider running. That titan is going to be aggressive, out run them or hide and then ambush them when it wears off.
2. Nova Bomb or Fist of Havoc-Yeah, they will just get killed out right with these cancelling supers
3. Shadowshot- Silence them, this turns off all supers
4. Rockets are the answer to everything.
5. SNIPERS- If shotguns are the answer to the bladedancer snipers are the answer to a HoS. Hammers fall quick and are only useful up to medium range. If you are killed at long range by a hammer... they got lucky or you didn't move.
6. Good old group fire.
All these tactics except snipers will work well on a Sunbreaker, just switch sniper with shotgun and they work well on Bladedancers too.
EDIT: Bladedancers were barely touched in the year they have been out. and when the most significant nerf happened it wasn't to the class or the super it was to a jump ability that is used by 2 classes. Bladedancers still have a great super for PVP and just like Sunbreakers are average in end game PVE. The damage reduction of the bladedancer is more than enough that if you don't have a high impact shotgun, super, or heavy, they are going to kill you. Guess what 3 things also take out a sunbreaker? in a super?
EDIT 2: Note there is legendary armor that boosts defense even more when using a solar sub class. If a Titan (who already has the most armor in the game) stacked Solar Sub-Class armor + Highest Defense Rating + Armor Buff when using HoS (which is a % of total armor). YES a Titan can become a super tank. That doesn't mean its broken it means that player has a better build than yours.
EDIT 3: [url]http://xboxclips.com/GHOST+9o5/b6f770f4-fe93-4f9a-8e94-23c5e342e9f1[/url]- High Impact snipers require 1 Crit+ extra to drop a SunBreaker in super. However Sunsingers regularly take a shotgun to the face and live [url]https://youtu.be/bq_mPCWeylc[/url]. Also lets not forget that group fire is no match for a blade dancer [url]https://youtu.be/LIFFy-OYOUY[/url]
[u][b]EDIT 4: Sunbreakers can barely survive a single Golden Gun Shot[/b][/u] [url]https://youtu.be/7-lVT6W9eSA?t=7m[/url] Time to Buff GG in PVP. HOWEVER we do not know what armor this Sunbreaker is wearing. There is armor that buffs solar sub classes and/or reduces solar damage.
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FR headshot takes em down
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Yesterday i got 4 breaker medals in one game with blade dancer.....check my stats if you don't believe me. (I apologize i pulled out my old gear and destroyed a rift match) 45 kills.....right behind my record of 47. (Btw i checked a tracking cite and a month ago, i havent checked recently, and i had #97 for most kills in one game OUT OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY) thats my best game acomplishment ever. Not a brag sorry. Just saying Blade dance game too strong
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Sniper seems best for me. I see one running, pull out ye ol' Sniper rifle and pop em in da head.
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Bladedancer-shotgun melee= dead HoS-shotgun melee =still alive
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Edited by Ereaser: 9/29/2015 11:32:09 AMAbout point 4, even a blade dancer can barely survive a rocket to the face. So I'm sure a sunbreaker will as well. About point 6, one hammer and you and everyone next to you is dead. Also a sun breaker is very usefull for clearing adds at Oryx when people are going for their Orge balls
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Time it right with a shotgun punch and he was down
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A impact sniper like ldr should one shot. That's all the fix sunbreaker needs
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Everyone has to choose a side guardian- even if it's the wrong one. I usually side with the developer lol
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Blade dancers were overpowered a month ago....
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Nope, snipers got them easy
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Edited by TheKumarEffect: 9/29/2015 9:29:20 AMBlade dancer did get nerfed early on so its only a matter of time
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Has anyone tried shooting a thrown hammer to see if it blows up?
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Bladedancer wasnt op because of his super... Nobody in this world except for bad players would have used Bladedancer only because of his super! Bladedancer was so strong because of the whole package. Best grenade in the game, massive mobility due to blink, blink strike bugged as hell and quick draw. That was a incredible good package. The super wasnt. Golden Gun where better, but GG had not the better skilltree. You can choose your class after their super, get ~10% of your kills with it and call it op. I will chosse my class after the skills that makes my gungame stronger. Because most of your kills will come from your gungame.
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Arc blade had its duration cut in half ontop of its damage reduction too. Totally not touched though.
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You mean 4 weeks ago
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Warlocks laughing maniacally in the back ground... It is all going according to plan the hunters are now fighting the Titans, soon we will regain master class...
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I remember when everyone [b]thought [/b]they were.
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Edited by Moot: 9/29/2015 8:51:11 AMI no longer pee myself when I see a bladedancer running at me. I also wish solar weapons still caused burn damage when being a sunsinger in radiance.
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Hunters have always been, and always will be bad. Blade dancer is the worst of the worst, just like any scrub hunter
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Edited by SgtRook: 9/29/2015 12:31:53 AMEarlier I took 2 rockets to the face, laughed as I ran through them, killed the person, as my health was regenerating I took another rocket from his team mate, ended up killing 4 people. Sunbreaker is really balanced. Also, Arc Blade used to have way more armor, it was nerfed. And you HAVE to get close. Sunbreaker will get the same treatment, but who knows when that will happen.
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Sunbreakers can survive rockets bud
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what original bladedancer was needed to shit
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The problem with sunbreaker is that I could nova bomb but the sunbreaker will trade with me. With a blade dancer you will kill them unless You miss the nova bomb. Since Titans can fly so high nova bomb and fist of havoc are out of range.
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I like how people keep mentioning shadowshot. Sorry bud it's not a viable counter. It's too slow to reach and tether by the time that's done you'll get a hammer to the face. Great you lost your super and got killed. Also if you hit them with the bow they tank it and keep their super.
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Shot one with my Iron Banner rocket earlier today. He survived.
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Snipers one shot head a sunbreaker...