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9/28/2015 4:36:41 AM
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The fact that the whole subclass is based around the super. Check its passives. Not a single one provides any major benefits without it.
Other classes have passives that boost abilities on their own. Without the hammer, the Sunbreaker has Lift, a grenade (Not a bolt grenade), and a God awful melee; that's about it.
If the hammer gets nerfed, the entire class gets its wings clipped; but if others get nerfed, they can brush it off with relative ease because of those passives.
The issue is, people don't read the class as a whole, and cry for nerfs without taking a second to think logically for a moment. Not surprising, given the player base, but even then you'd think someone would have some common sense.
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Like +10,000,000
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You sir, get a cookie
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When a super can't be killed by every other super, and can two shot every other super from a long distance, while all the others require you to be close to your target, I'd call that unbalanced. Especially when you can't 1-shot headshot them. Accept it, they're above every other super and that's not balanced at all. Don't cry waaaaaahhh Wahhhhhhhhhh Titans get a good subclass and they get bashed for it wahhhhh wahhhhhhh no. If the super is goddamn borderline overpowered and can't be killed by every other super in a rockvpaperscissors manner, that's unbalanced.
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Calm down there champ. Think about it logically instead of throwing a fit. Hammer of Sol gets knocked out by a lot of things. Enough things? No. A high impact rifle should instantly down one in my opinion, and that should be fixed, but other than that its fine. A single Nova, a fist of Havoc, a Shadowshot, a Golden Gun, a well used Stormtrance, just running for 10 seconds, and so on removes any real presence the Sunbreaker has on a game for the next 4+ minutes because they have no super. I do the same to any other class, and they still can do some serious work. I snipe a Gunslinger, they still have Scavenger and tripmines for area denial. Bladedancers have speed and handling for CQC. VoidWalkers have grenades all the time. Sunsinger have the best grenades and melee. Strikers have Lightnings that dominate corners. Stormcaller have greandes or melee always up. Sunbreaker doesn't have any passive that gives him an edge outside the super. Every other class does. The super gives a whole 10 seconds of dominance, and he's back to being sub par. Ever tried sniping against someone who has Keen Scout? It's near impossible because they lace you through walls. (Which by the way, would be considered a hack in other FPS games due to the advantage of gives) Do I think it's OP in that class? No, because that amazing passive is offset by a non lethal super, mediocre grenades, and no blink. Its made for zone control, so I have to back off and flank. The class as a whole has weaknesses, just like any other. See? When taken by themselves, it sounds OP, but in the grand scheme of things, they balance out. People just don't take the time to look at the big picture.
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But a golden gun and a nova bomb can take out a Sunbreaker...
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Wait, rock paper scissor means anything can beat anything? Damn, I always played this game wrong XD So, which supers can't kill a Sunbreaker using his super? Asking out of curiosity, didn't play much PVP since TTK.
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A nova bomb can, fist of havoc, 2 golden guns, idk how many blade dancers and idk how much fire from a sun singer it takes to get them down.
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And a golden gun will only need 2 shots if the titan is spec'd for armor
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Well, and there is always the possibility to hide until the super wears off ;) Is it really mainly hunters crying because they don't have the only strong and annoying supers anymore XD
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Really? Are you -blam!-in five years old? Do you think even hunters were laughing when blade dancer was the most overpowered super in the game? No. They weren't. They wanted the nerf just as much as the other classes did because they have a damn brain and know what balance is. If your too young to understand what it means to have a balanced and fun experience get the -blam!- off the forums.
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Ha, you are funny. Where you not around?
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Someone seems mad XD Sorry to disappoint you, 31 years old :-/
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Someone's tired of little -blam!-faces acting like they're cool
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Edited by Pink Anarchist: 9/28/2015 1:08:44 PMWhat exactly did I do to make you angry so fast? That little remark about hunters? Chill a little bit! Also, I'm passionate uncool XD Also, I'm very open to people explaining what needs rebalancing regarding the Sunbreaker. A lot of posts though just state "it's OP, can't even one shot with GG" or claim they can't be killed at all (I've seen them die, so they are not invincible ;) Anyway, still is just a super, and nowhere near as annoying as those awful overused guns were before the rebalancing. PS: Wait, most of your crucible kills are shotgun kills? Maybe that's your problem, learn to keep your distance against a hammer throwing, flaming Titan!
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Don't take my playstyle into this. I play the rusher, fast paced run and gun gung-ho type player. The next step back from that is sitting in the back picking people off aka camping soooooooooo yeah.
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Because there is no in between? But true, I mainly used MIDA because it makes me stand around faster XD Play whatever way you want, but there will be situations where this won't be the best approach and in the end get you killed. And trust me, I know a lot about bad decisions in PVP ;)
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Did I say they're invincible? No. I said they're unbalanced and borderline overpowered. They can be beat, no doubt, but good -blam!-ing luck in beating them consistently.
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Ugh. Another one of you OMG HIS STATS HIS STATS CHECK THE -blam!-ING STATS! I'll openly admit, I CANT -blam!-ING SNIPE IN THIS GAME FOR SHIT.(I was pretty damn good in bo2 but that's irrelevant)
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I can't snipe as well. Well, not only not snipe. I'm generally not great. To be honest I checked your profile hoping I'd see lots of Hand Cannon kills, but you are not guilty of that ;) And no, I'm not one to tell people to shut up because of some game stats. Maybe you noticed I only advised some distance for certain encounters, nothing else. But if you like, I can tell you that you are a dirty blink shotgunner and need to get good ;) (just kidding here!)
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I don't even use blink lol
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It was a joke >.< I even said so.
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Why did I say lol? Hm? Because I thought it was serious? No. Because j was assuring you I didnt.
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No. Rock Paper Scissors means there's balance. Rock beats scissors but not paper. Paper beats rock but not scissors. Scissors beats paper but not rock.
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I've been killed by a one shot golden gun while in my super?
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You haven't had high enough armor. If you make your subclass so you have high enough armor you'll tank it with like a quarter of the last bar of health. (Was told by friend who mains Titan)
