They didn't become the hive until they ate the worm and required to feed it, before that they only had 2 eyes.

They had 3 eyes before then too, read the earlier fragments where they take an oath upon each of their 3 eyes

Yeah but at an earlier point it says one of the sisters closed her two eyes or something and was blind. Before they found the ship and passed leviathan the first time.

Thinking of the Deep as something fundament to the universe seems too naive. The way it is described, it certainly seems ancient and mysterious, but making assumptions that it is directly related to the universe as opposed to, say, merely being an acausal environment from which powerful percipients can gain weakly acausal powers in the material universe seems too... I don't know, [i]unsophisticated[/i] for a story like this. Also, Hive beat the Vex in this timeline. Straight up. Vex put up a good fight, but they were destroyed on the Hive's home turf countless times. Can't say it would be the same in other timelines, though... Quria, Blade Transform sent out that vital info to the other Vex, so they should theoretically be superior some other [b]time[/b]. They aren't so much part of the Darkness, though... they seem to merely admire its power. What with it being so inherently difficult to comprehend, their desire to learn and assimilate its power into their ultimate plan should be an important part of their involvement with it. They aren't so much a part of the Darkness as they are its ally. [i]ALSO,[/i] Oryx and his sisters kill each other because it fits into their personal philosophies, which have been infected by the Worms. The ultimate plan they speak of refers to whittling down the universe into its purest and, to them, most beautiful form. Toland said it best when he said this: [quote]"I drive myself to the edge of madness trying to explain the truth. It's so simple. Elegant like a knife point. It explains - this is not hyperbole, this is the farthest thing from exaggeration - EVERYTHING. But you lay it out and they stare at you like you've just been exhaling dust. Maybe they're missing some underlying scaffold of truth. Maybe they are all propped on a bed of lies that must be burned away. Why does anything exist? No no no no no don't reach for that word. There's no 'reason'. That's teleology and teleology will stitch your eyelids shut. Why do we have atoms? Because atomic matter is more stable than the primordial broth. Atoms defeated the broth. That was the first war. There were two ways to be and one of them won. And everything that came next was made of atoms. Atoms made stars. Stars made galaxies. Worlds simmered down to rock and acid and in those smoking primal seas the first living molecule learned to copy itself. All of this happened by the one law, the blind law, which exists without mind or meaning. It's the simplest law but it has no worshippers here (out there, though, out there - !) HOW DO I EXPLAIN IT it's so simple WHY DON'T YOU SEE Imagine three great nations under three great queens. The first queen writes a great book of law and her rule is just. The second queen builds a high tower and her people climb it to see the stars. The third queen raises an army and conquers everything. The future belongs to one of these queens. Her rule is harshest and her people are unhappy. But she rules. This explains everything, understand? This is why the universe is the way it is, and not some other way. Existence is a game that everything plays, and some strategies are winners: the ability to exist, to shape existence, to remake it so that your descendants - molecules or stars or people or ideas - will flourish, and others will find no ground to grow. And as the universe ticks on towards the close, the great players will face each other. In the next round there will be three queens and all of them will have armies, and now it will be a battle of swords - until one discovers the cannon, or the plague, or the killing word. Everything is becoming more ruthless and in the end only the most ruthless will remain (LOOK UP AT THE SKY) and they will hunt the territories of the night and extinguish the first glint of competition before it can even understand what it faces or why it has transgressed. This is the shape of victory: to rule the universe so absolutely that nothing will ever exist except by your consent. This is the queen at the end of time, whose sovereignty is eternal because no other sovereign can defeat it. And there is no reason for it, no more than there was reason for the victory of the atom. It is simply the winning play. Of course, it might be that there was another country, with other queens, and in this country they sat down together and made one law and one tower and one army to guard their borders. This is the dream of small minds: a gentle place ringed in spears. But I do not think those spears will hold against the queen of the country of armies. And that is all that will matter in the end."[/quote]

[quote] Imagine three great nations under three great queens. The first queen writes a great book of law and her rule is just. The second queen builds a high tower and her people climb it to see the stars. The third queen raises an army and conquers everything. The future belongs to one of these queens. Her rule is harshest and her people are unhappy. But she rules. ......... Of course, it might be that there was another country, with other queens, and in this country they sat down together and made one law and one tower and one army to guard their borders. This is the dream of small minds: a gentle place ringed in spears. But I do not think those spears will hold against the queen of the country of armies. And that is all that will matter in the end."[/quote] Interesting points. I've wondered if the 3 queens are Oryx and his sisters. The last part of the quote is an obvious reference to the current (in game) state of humanity.

No, the queen who rules harshly is Oryx and his sisters. They know this is the winning strategy, and they see themselves as the natural answer to the Light. Everything gets more and more ruthless until only the 'best' nation is left. The Traveler and its Light are the queens who want a gentle nation ringed in spears. Coincidentally, the Traveler is described with female pronouns in some source. The nations ruled by queens with great towers or just law were the worlds wiped out by the Hive.

[quote]No, the queen who rules harshly is Oryx and his sisters. They know this is the winning strategy, and they see themselves as the natural answer to the Light. Everything gets more and more ruthless until only the 'best' nation is left. The Traveler and its Light are the queens who want a gentle nation ringed in spears. Coincidentally, the Traveler is described with female pronouns in some source. The nations ruled by queens with great towers or just law were the worlds wiped out by the Hive.[/quote] The Traveler is part of the city ringed in spears strategy but is not a willing participant.

Not a willing participant? I see it as a pretty vital contributor, so wouldn't that make her a 'participant'? As for the 'willing' part, I don't think any of us can speak for its will.

[quote]Not a willing participant? I see it as a pretty vital contributor, so wouldn't that make her a 'participant'? As for the 'willing' part, I don't think any of us can speak for its will.[/quote] Obviously the Traveler is vital to the protection of The City. Rasputin knows it. Evidence suggests that Rasputin shot the Traveler to keep it from leaving, yes? The Traveler left everywhere it started a Golden Age. It has done this over and over for thousands or tens of thousands (or millions or billions) of years. It's will is to avoid conflict. Probably because it is the polar opposite of Oryx and the Darkness. Rasputin is coercing/blackmailing/forcing the Traveler into helping us.

[quote][i]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/i] This has been such a long chase. This will be the place you will fight. Fight and win.  But do you really know why you go where you go, and where this journey is taking you? The chase leads you where you need to be, you believe. Unless...you are being pushed.[/quote] Ghost Fragment: The Traveler 2

[quote][quote][i]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/i] This has been such a long chase. This will be the place you will fight. Fight and win.  But do you really know why you go where you go, and where this journey is taking you? The chase leads you where you need to be, you believe. Unless...you are being pushed.[/quote] Ghost Fragment: The Traveler 2[/quote] You have no idea what place it is thinking of or when. You have no idea how often it said that to itself before it created other Golden Ages. For my money this card expresses something generic rather than specific.

[quote] Dreams of Alpha Lupi The knife had a million blades. And you were giant, powerful and swift. But the knife pinned you. Cut your godly flesh away. Very little was left, you are sure, because you feel insignificant now. The hard slick heart of your soul: That is what remains. A body small as a river stone, and just as simple. You picture yourself as a piece of indigestible grit, a nameless nothing hiding among other nameless stones. Perhaps you glitter like a gem, yes. Pride makes you hope so. If only you could see yourself. But you have no eyes. Not the dimmest sense survives. What lives is memory, and what slim portion of these thoughts can you trust? The knife stole much more than your body.[/quote] Ghost Fragment: The Traveler 3 When else would it have been incapacitated?

[quote][quote] Dreams of Alpha Lupi The knife had a million blades. And you were giant, powerful and swift. But the knife pinned you. Cut your godly flesh away. Very little was left, you are sure, because you feel insignificant now. The hard slick heart of your soul: That is what remains. A body small as a river stone, and just as simple. You picture yourself as a piece of indigestible grit, a nameless nothing hiding among other nameless stones. Perhaps you glitter like a gem, yes. Pride makes you hope so. If only you could see yourself. But you have no eyes. Not the dimmest sense survives. What lives is memory, and what slim portion of these thoughts can you trust? The knife stole much more than your body.[/quote] Ghost Fragment: The Traveler 3 When else would it have been incapacitated?[/quote] It was incapacitated by Rasputin at Earth, according to prevalent theory. That has [u]nothing[/u] to do with wanting to stand and fight with the help of its "children". Traveler card 1 describes finding its children. Those "children" could have been any of - or all of - thousands of civilizations that it gave Golden Ages to in hope of standing and fighting.

Plot twist. The traveler is the deep, we are oryx's replacement.

Some minor fixes: 1: it's implied Rasputin nuked the traveler, hence why the bottom's damaged: literally launched a nuke from below, to keep it on the planet. 2: The Traveler is implied to be a follower of the "Leviathan", we still dunno what this Leviathan is, could be Ahamkara, could be Space Bruce Willis. We can only assume it's large. 3: The Hive were a Krill-like species upon their conception. 4: Oryx's sisters (one being a King form like Oryx, the other a Wizard form) are both still alive, technically. They left Oryx before he created Crota. 4.5: It's implied the sisters may have grown drastically more powerful than him. He also fears Taox, the rogue, and thinks she may still be out there...

TLDR: Oryx went evil and transgender and killed stuff