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The ONLY way they'll listen is if everyone quits buying their games. That's not going to happen. You are all (myself included) a part of this problem. We continue enabling these companies. Tell them to piss off and keep your money in your wallet. When their bottom line comes under fire, they'll change their tune.
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  • Voting with our wallets, you are totally correct that it does indeed foster change in the most effective way. I also feel that if a portion of the community has a problem, them voicing that issue has an effect as well albeit not as great. It's important to "vote" for the direction of a game the community has invested itself into in as many ways as possible my friend.

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  • And they won't have the money to produce as good of games.

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  • So a smarter dev. will take over their market share. Your argument is the same as made for GM and Chrysler the market share doesn't just disappear someone always takes more of it.

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  • Edited by oxI Sonic Ixo: 9/17/2015 6:51:39 PM
    Excellent example, now we see the big three (ford, chrysler, GM) trying to finally step up their game since the great 2007 bailouts. If you don't provide the proper product and standards, someone else will (toyota, honda, nissan).

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  • Yeah they still suck, I and others have bought vehicles after and still same problems. So on my next vehicle I'll vote with my wallet. Last car was Ford because they said no to handouts, but after having it a few months found out many things were not attached correctly minor fixes but when the company cannot even tighten the bolts correctly then time to move on. Thanks for the response though.

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  • Lol Ford (found on road dead) but seriously, sorry to hear about those issues man. Thank you for your reply.

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  • NP, you know I figured eh I'll give them another chance. So they got their chance and blew it, fool me once. I haven't had tons of repairs but enough to make me rethink my decision, things that people driving imports have never have to fix. Also some genius (I use the term lightly) decided to have a metal butterfly in the intake while the rest is plastic so when it is cold out I have to kick the gas pedal pretty hard just to get it to move and have to keep it slightly pressed or it locks up again. That has been an issue since day one, which I could fix with aftermarket parts but shouldn't have to.

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  • [quote]Also some genius (I use the term lightly) decided to have a metal butterfly in the intake while the rest is plastic so when it is cold out I have to kick the gas pedal pretty hard just to get it to move and have to keep it slightly pressed or it locks up again. That has been an issue since day one, which I could fix with aftermarket parts but shouldn't have to.[/quote] So the housing/throttle body or a portion of it around the butterfly valve is plastic? What a way to cut costs, it boggles the mind why you would skimp out on essential engine operation components. What vehicle so I can research this lol?

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  • 2007 Ford Focus ST, the problem is plastic and metal contract and expand at different rates so they either have to do all metal or all plastic. The fix is a larger all metal throttle body or use a dremel to increase the opening around the butterfly so it doesn't catch. Basically the butterfly gets stuck in the closed position so stomping on the gas forces it open.

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  • Edited by oxI Sonic Ixo: 9/17/2015 7:55:04 PM
    Damn man, sorry to hear that. I have heard awesome things about the new focus STs. Their so quick for its class and price, I wouldn't mind picking one up second hand to play with the ecoboost and its tune-ability. Could care less if it's Forward wheel drive. I wouldn't have imagined they would skimp on the performance model like that.

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