- You can't play strikes above level 20 - You can't specifically play Control, - You can't specifically play Clash - You can't specifically play Skirmish - You can't specifically play Salvage - You can't specifically play Rumble - You can't play any story missions that you pick above their original level (i.e. A level 3 story mission cannot be dialed up to a level 20 or 32) - It looks like there are no Weekly or Daily Strikes for anyone, but expect not to be able to play any of those either once next weeks reset rolls around - *You can't play Trials when that comes around - *You can't play Iron Banner when that comes around posted in another thread.

Am I the only one who has not purchased TTK that genuinely does not give an honest shit?

This is probably the only rant post about ttk that I actually 100% agree with and makes absolute sense. Well, to me personally at least.

Bought Control, Rumble, and Elimination right? Where are they now? That's right, behind a -blam!-ing paywall you insignificant twat.

It's a new game buy it

To those who r tired of others complaining - Y r u here complaining yourself instead of playing TTK? I'm here cuz I cant play a game I sank a Benjamin into. You are not the ones who got slighted. You don't like it don't read it. @Coyote X Starrk You say not featured. I say if I can't play it - it's not there. Where will I get my strange coins for Xur? Or will Xur not have anything for me now anyway - just like all of the vendors? Y do u give such a crap that other ppl feel ripped off? It is their right! Who the hell are you to say their feelings aren't valid & they're wrong? You obviously don't know what it's like to grind on a game for a year to get the best things and level all your gear for nothing. Why have you made it your crusade to spend all day on this forum telling ppl not to talk to a company that says they're listening? (So long as u commit to giving them money on a regular basis) I'm experiencing it myself right now. I've been on Destiny & LFG for over an hour unable to get ppl to play with. I can't solo or get matchmaking on anything that's worthwhile to play. My choices are run old low lvl story missions. Play 20 vanguard. Choose from only a couple crucible modes. Or do 28 arenas. Every week for me & my friends Destiny revolved mostly around running NF, heroic, raids, & trials. Now I can't or it's pointless. The other games you speak of that operate like this - that's y i don't play them. That's y i quit Destiny. Other games that add content don't take some away should you not fork it over. It's not OK. It's not too much to to ask with all this tech that there still be endgame content for you at the level of the last DLC you purchased. If ppl don't rant about it and take a stand, every game that comes out will be more DLC than original disc content and will have a subscription cost with it. Not all gamers are kids spending their allowances. Alot of us get to buy 1 or 2 games a year if we're lucky. Alot of that time we're trading in old games to get that new one. Destiny should feel honored we chose their game & not decide we're worthless if we're not providing residual income. Since we can''t trade in DLC we tend to buy less of it too. I bought the first 2 DLC packs & still felt it was unfair to eliminate activities like NF for others. Just cuz that's what they did with the last 2 packs I got doesn't make it OK. It is a forced subscription model with no ability to recoup losses as with a physical disc. It is also a slap in the face for Beta & Day 1 players who would be $140 deep for $60 to get everything as a late-comer. $80 difference for 1 yr? Where I come from $60 buys u a game for life. @ Kweh - U forgot: I can't buy anything from vendors I lost all my marks I can't find anyone for old raids or arena I lost all my friends I can't do armsday after last week I do not want to play lvl 6 story missions or 28 arena (the only thing that will matchmake) I have spent the past hour trying just to find ppl to play with on LFG, to no avail. Any old game I have with DLC & online modes is still playable. BF3 even after 4 & hardline came out. Forza 4 even after 5, 6, Horizon 1& Horizon 2. None of my other games ever got smaller when a new pack or pass came out. So a constant stream of money for servers is no excuse. You should have diff level activities and matchmaking for those. Why can't there be 2 diff lvl nitefall & heroics? Cuz Bungie doesn't care about me anymore. I like so many things about Destiny, but I am an adult with limited income to spend on myself. I should not have to commit to a 10 yr income stream for you or risk having my game be unplayable. Loyalty should matter. I understand not getting new stuff, but the old stuff should remain. With less activities to do, nothing worthwhile to earn, and nobody to play with; there's no reason to play. Bungie - I hope you keep stats on how many guardians desert; not just how many copies you sell. $100 spent and I'll be lucky to get $10 of it back. Didn't know that money was for a limited time subscription. I been around since the 1st Halo on original XBox. Had 2, 3, 4, ODST, & Reach. Bought DLC maps on 3 & 4. Played Destiny Beta, was Day 1, & bought expansions 1 & 2. You just lost a lifelong customer. What about those who do have the funds to spend, but make a choice not to? Those who have never spent that kind of money on a single game. This logic says it's ok to make it so they can't play half of what they spent that original $100 on if they don't feel like regularly spending more money on it. $110 for a $60 game then another $50 for a season pass is already pushing it for alot of ppl's budgets. The DLC prices never go down with time like the used disc prices. So you can't even wait til it's more affordable should you not have the immediate money. You also can't recoup any money when you are done. They get to keep it all for selling you something you can only fully access until they come out with something else to sell you. It's like a child refusing to play with you unless you keep giving him all your toys. Don't be that guy. That guy's a D*K Sorry for length.This Is a consolidation of other posts, threads, & conversations. I am only this vocal cuz here is a game that is at the top of its field in many ways. I have invested more time & money into it than most other games. With all the money and tech involved y can't they also break the mold in terms of expansions? Just cuz evry other MMO left ppl in the dust should they not pay more to play doesn't make it right.

OK, I appreciate your well thought out argument, and lack of hate. However, I'm many cases I'm going to present, I think you're splitting hairs. Level caps were never before restricted, and that sets up the expectation to continue that way; but you're right, they have that option. But that choice sets off a chain of restrictions worthy of Zynga; heroic daily and weekly and gear to start. Faction levelling is not taken, but rendered pointless because rewards are lvl 40 gear. Iron banner is the same, you can technically still enter, but why? As a disclaimer, I don't currently own TTK, I do plan on buying it. I just think this is a shady practice, and is shameful. Customers should want to buy add one because they crave more of your work, not because the product is broken without it.

When something was there before, and it's no longer there, that would be the definition of it being taken away. These "featured" events were what was part of the original game. Weeklies, iron banner, trials should still be available (and by that, I mean we should be able to reach lvl 40 to compete) to people who have paid $95 for the game. And this happened after 1 year. Yea I get the new maps/missions/strikes should be dlc, but not essential parts of the game. Halo had weekly matchmaking events for years after release, and it was never exclusive to dlc. We paid $95 for a beta, and after they used us to help create their game, they're charging us more for a game we should've gotten a year ago. There was already an extra subclass slot in the vanilla game. This means that they had every intention of having three subclasses, and instead they decided hey, why not wait to finish the game, and then charge them more. They are milking us. The content that is available now should've been part of the original game. The dlc that we've paid for should've been part of the original game. The interface, weapon tuning and leveling system should've all been a part of the original game. They sold us an unfinished product, used us to finish it, and is turning around and selling it right back to us. If you honestly think this game and the content that is available now is worth $135, then go ahead and spend your money on it. But I think you've all been scammed, and are enabling companies to follow this trend of having their consumers paying for early release, using them as crowd source beta testers, and then charging them again for the final.

Trials of Osiris came out with HoW. I bought HoW knowing this. Trials of Osiris cannot be played anymore unless you purchase TTK because you cannot level up. Thus preventing me from playing ToO. That is the the definition of taken content you already purchased. That is just one example btw. [spoiler]It is also a very big possibility that Trials will be played on TTK maps anyways.[/spoiler]

So are Petra Venj and Eris Morn features? They must be since they don't do anything now. What about trials of osiris? That a feature as well? Nah mate, that's CONTENT Gear in the game you can no longer get (like literally cannot get anymore) - content Vanguard playlist - that's content. Up until 3 days ago you could play the strikes at the level you wanted, whether you had the expansions or not.

This is a great thread. Stop crying guys, you didn't want the taken king so you can't just expect the old end game content to hang around for you.

I guess that why he's called "The Taken King", cause he's taking y'all's content!