Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals.
Then why am I bothering to post this you ask?
Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic.
[b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes.
The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b]
The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week.
Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for.
So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side.
WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound.
You paid for content.
You got that content.
You [i]still have[/i] that content.
You can still play that content.
[i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content.
The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear.
Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet.
So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago?
I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it.
Because it is and you do.
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im really sorry but its not their its there and i do agree with this
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Nice post, though i wish Bungie would create separate nightfall for the non ttk users, which will not include anything ttk related from strikes to gears.
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The game has a ten year plan, that and it's ever evolving nature, cause it to be situational, but also they only proper way it can mature. Only the players that keep playing in the water get to stay in the pool. So figuratively speaking, they are the only ones getting wet. And how long you do depends on how long you swim, so to speak. It makes sense, they can't hold back forever, the game has to grow regardless. I we want it to get big, we should expect this. I'm not saying agree with it, just understand it's more in the interest of expanding the game rather than malnourish it. Buy it or don't. Or wait for the big Collectors Edition that includes what you miss for free. Either way, I'm happy a developer pushes this much out every 3 months. It's like a subscription for me, and my time equal to money is a massive bargain. It equals out to about .02¢ an hour. I'm good with that.
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Partially wrong. Nightfall is behind a pay-wall. Level requirement is a constant level 40, which can only be unlocked when you buy TTK. This is what people are really complaining about.
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Anyone that can't understand this post is a -blam!-ing idiot.
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I went full circle with links from other posts.
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I'm glad you said this, I too am waiting to purchase TTK, but I've since been playing on my characters, I don't feel like there is a loss of content.
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do non dlc owners see taken on patrol ?
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You are wrong. Quit defending this bait and switch tactic. the people who did not buy ttk do not want the pushed out update.
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Finally. A sensible poster.
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You look cute today.
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Did any one game you talked about prevent me from getting an expansion because I didn't buy some stupid add on ?
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Edited by ShamWowEnthusiast: 9/16/2015 3:38:43 AMPerfectly said. I'm going to spread this around in all those complaining threads if you don't mind lol [spoiler]Plus 1 for being smart about your money[/spoiler] [spoiler]Also, I would highly recommend TTK. While it [i]is[/i] a bit pricy for my taste, I think it was money well spent. The story so far has been great with actual good missions and cutscenes that don't repeat the same thing over and over. I can't wait to start checking out all the new exotics and the raid. [/spoiler]
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Edited by Intron: 9/16/2015 3:27:17 AMYou have been locked out of vendors though they no longer carry any stock to cater for you which is a shame as most all have a level 40 requirement on them. And those that don't have a level 40 requirement well good luck getting legendary marks then... They used to be all level 20.. Not any more
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Thank you
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Bump. Awesome name btw
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Thx you get it.
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Can I ask you a question if I don't have TTK? Where is Control? I have a bounty to get "kills whilst you have 2+ zones controlled". Don't get me wrong, this isn't self-entitlement. It's annoyance. But I can't play Control, a simple crucible playlist in the game since Vanilla, since it requires TTK. I also can't level up past 34. Why, Bungie? You can make stuff exclusive just can I please be able to hit 40?
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Nobody will ever screw me THIS bad again: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153944611
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Get rekt. Haha
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Edited by Blind_Reborn: 9/16/2015 3:05:37 AMIdk why everyone is getting pissed that's ttk is 40 dollars like your pissed cause ttk is 40 dollars really come on your Not broke like damn that's stupid stop protesting and just buy the damn thing cause 40 dollars is nothing .like f**k me 40 dollars. It's stupid
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I believe you'll find that the expansion is well worth it, if you choose to buy. But that's not why I'm here. I'm here to compliment you on your clear and rational thought processes. That's rare to see (outside my own posts, of course). Carry on, please. We may disagree on subjective conclusions, but not on facts.
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Sheep
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You are a god amongst forumers. I thank you, and even if they do not know it yet, the City thanks you