Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals.
Then why am I bothering to post this you ask?
Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic.
[b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes.
The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b]
The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week.
Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for.
So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side.
WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound.
You paid for content.
You got that content.
You [i]still have[/i] that content.
You can still play that content.
[i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content.
The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear.
Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet.
So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago?
I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it.
Because it is and you do.
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When the next DLC will released, and TTK content will cut off why should we buy new expansions when we cant play old ones? This is totally absurd! Sry for grammar...
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Hehehehe "Taken" Heheh
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If you went out and bought dark below or house of wolfs today would you even get any decent content? No you wouldn't you would be spending $20 on a raid and that's about it. Destiny is such a joke and a waste of money. Just knowing that I payed for over $80 worth of useless content makes me sick. Even more so thinking about how much money bungi is making off a bunch of 13 year old kids, and then they REQUIRE another $40 dlc to play their game. What a joke
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Here's an idea. Delete TTK content from your machine and log back in....have fun.
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I honestly don't care anymore it's quite obvious bungie don't care about the people that play this game and if you do play it Bungie dictates how you play anyway. Year 1 was fine apart from house of wolves and then obviously this mess plus there is just no reason to play destiny anymore even with new year dlc because you know all that hard work to get your favourite gear will become useless soon anyway. So really it's just all about the money you only need to look at the stupid pricing of taken king in most countries to realise that even a blind man can see that and then locking people out of content they bought is even more proof of that. This game is a complete waste of space and how anyone can still play this game makes me laugh.
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That's not entirely true if your stuck in vanilla destiny and have paid for both expansions there is content that was available at dlc launch that is no longer there. And they've limited the matching making activities that you used to have as well as certain planet side missions quests and baddies. Blades of crota gone Wolves gone Eris bounties gone Petra bounties gone Sorry dude that's content and it's no longer there therefore if you don't spring for the taken king you are missing on wait for it ..... Wait for it ! CONTENT !
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Pretty much what I had said this morning. Good on ya.
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Listen to the man. You have had no [b]content[/b] taken away from you. They only removed [b]features[/b] Just remember that when they sell you the dlc they call things like trials [b]content[/b] But when a new dlc comes out trials becomes a [b]feature[/b]
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Serious questions follow, as I own ttk. Can you buy the new gear from the vendors? Are you stuck at level 40. Do the taken turn up on your patrols of world. Can you buy new exotics from xur?
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I just don't understand what people are bitch in about... if anyone played mmos before that had expansions that increased level caps would know that you don't have access to that and can't level up till you buy the expansion... stuff like this has been going on in mmos for years...
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I paid for wolves to be on the prowl and yet they were taken away
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OP is a -blam!-ing gentlemen and scholar. BEST POST EVER. I hope this is pinned to shut up the whiners. Christ.
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Now let's switch it up and complain about Bungie robbing features!! Logic!!!
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Wrong
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Has anyone heard from DeeJ or Cosmo recently? A lot of people seem to be complaining about this.
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Bump Although so far I would say TTK is definitely worth it. By this time in HoW most people had 3 34's and had beaten all the endgame. TTK still has lots more to discover
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Look I agree that we don't need to rant about it and that we didn't buy ttk but they still did take away content I bought the vanguard dragon and vanguard ROC those are gone so is A LOT of crucible modes they took away half the worth of those other expansions so I am sorry but you are VERY WRONG.
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You surely are a desticle. Stop defending their scam.
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So if you bought a season pass for up to HoW, but set Destiny down the day before HoW, then picked it up to play today without TTK would you have the same content that you would have had if you played through HoW from its release?
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This is the best way I have seen this put, but I'm sorry to say it won't solve anything people have complained about this for every dlc so far and will probably complain about it with the next ones too. I do recommend buying ttk I have put in about 25 hours over the last couple days and still have plenty to do.
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Oryx has taken everything
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You're retarded
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TTK was Bungie's way of weeding out those that didn't / don't plan to support the game by buying new DLC and personally I'm okay with that. Destiny is a big commitment and anyone who is actually serious about playing had bought TTK before it was even released. It's really simple, Destiny is an evolving game with DLC drops every 4 months or so instead of having a monthly subscription. You either buy the latest DLC and stay current in the game or you don't and you move on to another game. Quit all the crying, it's not going to change anything.
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Edited by HoliestOfBeards: 9/17/2015 8:03:56 PMWell....thank you for taking the time to post this so I didn't have to. Agree with what you said. When you want to avail the services of a company, you have to do so within the guidelines of that company. Edit: I also just realized you said you didn't buy TTK. If an online strangers opinion means anything to you - buy TTK. Without spoiling anything, the first campaign mission and the sub class missions are better than all of year one combined. And that's just scratching the surface
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Really? I just rented a brand new game (very hyped) and it only took me one night to finish. Instead of spending $60 I rented it for $3. I will play TTK for many weeks if not months so I don't think it is asking much for $40 for something these guys/gals have poured so much of their time into making for us. If you just want it for a few days to at the story missions go rent it for a few bucks. You won't be disappointed.
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- You can't play strikes above level 20 - You can't specifically play Control, - You can't specifically play Clash - You can't specifically play Skirmish - You can't specifically play Salvage - You can't specifically play Rumble - You can't play any story missions that you pick above their original level (i.e. A level 3 story mission cannot be dialed up to a level 20 or 32) - It looks like there are no Weekly or Daily Strikes for anyone, but expect not to be able to play any of those either once next weeks reset rolls around - *You can't play Trials when that comes around - *You can't play Iron Banner when that comes around posted in another thread.