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Destiny: The Tranny King

So I'm starting to theorize here guys! Well start by saying we can confirm that the traveler moves from location to location. We know based on the grimiore that when the traveler came we entered the golden age and after that we fell into the dark age. Now we fight to protect what remains of the traveller with our lives. Let's apply this to our "enemies of the darkness". Fallen: Obviously they have advanced technological skills. Demonstrated by scorch cannons and the S.A.B.E.R. (For example) that they are making these complex machines from scrap. This leads me to believe that they went through a golden age of sorts as well. Perhaps the traveller was with them once too. Assuming it once was it obviously left probably sending them hurdling into a dark age. With that plunder into chaos the fallen became segregated forming the different houses. (Maybe the houses were structured teams sent to find the traveller again?) the houses then go out trying to find the traveller but become savage without its light. They become pirates and in that forget what it was they're primary goal was from the beginning. Now we fight with them to protect the traveller just as they probably once did. Hive: I'll start by prefacing read the book of sorrows or at-least someone's summary of it. Now let's dive into it. The sisters go to the worms the worms change them into the hive in short. But why did they go to the worms? Perhaps they once too had a traveller and upon its leaving they descended into the dark ages and upon looking for structure and order thy created a monarchy. Upon the Kings death the three sisters go to the worms and the worms basically transform them into a species that in fact embrace the darkness. Looking to destroy the light and all things derived from it but I believe this is the influence of the Wyrms. Wyrms: basically the worm race that spawned the hive race. Many have noticed the similarities between them and the ahamkara. We know from grimoire that the ahamkara began appearing on earth upon the arrival of the traveller. They were hunted into extinction. I believe he Wyrms were ahamkara that became plagued by the darkness once the traveller left. This probably would have happened during our dark ages had we not hunted them into extinction. As for the cabal I don't believe they haven't been exposed to the light of the traveller and have yet to go into a golden age. They have probably however heard of it so the cabal empire created forces to search for the traveller in an attempt to take it. The cabal are in a highly militarized state which is why I believe they never had a traveller because without knowledge people resort to violence. The vex however are a mystery to me. Perhaps the were created by another race during a golden age of the traveler and upon its exit they became corrupt with darkness but they still have the basic program to build and expand. These are just some thoughts so add in if you want I'd love to hear others theory's!

This is inaccurate The Hive were once a "Krill" species which had a ten year lifespan, they had a war with the "Helium Drinkers" which are a race we don't know about entirely. The Osmium King, Oryx's father, had the Worm Yul in his keeping. It fed off him, and told him things. Taox, Oryx's mother didn't see any of her children fit to be heir. To be a mother you "drink the jelly" which expands your lifespan greatly. But that is also the way to decide your gender. In the Krill's culture the rulers were Kings, and therefore male/masculine. The ones who are not yet assigned to a role were referred to in a feminine sense, as daughter/sister. As I said Taox didn't see anyone fit to rule. When the Osmium King died Oryx and his sister's went into the Deep, guided by Yul, corrupted by Yul. This is when Oryx assigned himself the role of King. This is when he stopped being called sister

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But who were the worms? Edit: Yes, disciples of darkness, but what species?

I enjoyed the new grimoire. The hive arent just "bad guys," they follow a philosophy of destruction. It was nice to flesh out the motives of our enemies a bit

My thoughts.... So I just read all 50 books and I have theory. Eris is the last of the people that the hive became or a daughter perhaps. After we kill Oryx and Eris touches the sword and pledges to serve her queens promise, she wasn't talking to the Awoken queen, she was talking to her's, Taox. It was to the queen that fled the three sisters (Oryx, Xivu_Arath, Savath) that found the worm gods and became the hive. This is why Eris could hide among the Hive in Hellmouth and how she knows so much. She matches the description of their previous form, we think the three eyes were stolen from hive but she had them all along. The queen of the pre-hive race fled the sisters as they were gaining strength and they tracked her for millennia but never found her. A race of people found a cyro chamber with Taox in it and perhaps she lived past the 10 year life span of their people once removed from the fundenment. And I think the fundenment, pre-hive home world, was a gas giant. It speaks of seas of poison and raining metal and helium drinkers and heat/pressure, and molten liquid metal core, 52 moons, etc, sound like Jupiter or Saturn? Maybe that's why they chose Saturn's rings, somewhere deep inside, it reminded Oryx of home.